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Question: Red to play 1-1
7/4 1/off - 4 (44.4%)
7/6 4/2 1/off - 0 (0%)
7/6 4/3(2) 1/off - 0 (0%)
7/5 4/3 1/off - 5 (55.6%)
7/6 4/2 4/3 - 0 (0%)
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« on: May 17, 2008, 11:15:16 AM »

Position information:

Pip-count: Red 20-40 White
Score:       Red   4-4   White
Match:                 7-pointer





First make your choice and then read on.

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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2008, 02:15:57 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2008, 04:39:37 PM »



One may recognize the massive value of a gammon for red and still be unable to recognize the best move.

By the way, I can stop posting my positions if they're considered to be too easy.

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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2008, 06:27:24 PM »

Maybe easy, but I got it wrong.   cry

Keep them coming, PL.   Yes

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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2008, 07:31:37 PM »

Yes PL go on posting positions !

What is the most interesting is the comments. One can easily find a best move but the harder is to put words on it and explain why it is the best choice.
So I must thank you again  Cool!

But one vcan admit that this one was quite easy  Wink

sorry for my bad english
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2008, 08:23:27 PM »

Yes PL go on posting positions !

What is the most interesting is the comments. One can easily find a best move but the harder is to put words on it and explain why it is the best choice.
So I must thank you again  Cool!

But one vcan admit that this one was quite easy  Wink

sorry for my bad english

Thanks dear friend for the kind words  thumbsup

Well, after Steve got the last problem right just because he knew that the "usual move" should had been discarded, I decided to post an easy one!  Wink Yet, we've got just 1 correct answer till now.

And also I would say that I'm definitly not the one that his comments may be regarded as worth-reading. I just play gnubg, and whenver I come across an interesting position, I post it in my blog, and occasionally also here. This has been very useful at least for myslef, cuz I can remeber patterns better and cuz I review my blog from time to time.

My skill level, according to gnubg, is advanced on mean, sometimes I get expert sometimes intermediate, but on average I get advanced remarks. So you may consult a more skillful player if you want more accurate and more detailed analysis.

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PS: The key roll in this position is 4-4, not 5-5. Execuse me for the mistake.
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2008, 06:54:22 AM »

 laugh I got the last two wrong [warning: feeble excuses ahead] because I answered too quickly and was tired [end of excuses, did you believe them? Wink] .. so my confidence is restored with this easy one. thumbsup2
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2008, 08:25:37 AM »

Actually red can still lose here...   laugh It's just very unlikely. For example 66 every time would mean that white can bear off in 5 rolls and 2-1 every time for red would take 6 rolls after correct move. And white's on roll so it's not even close.  Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2008, 06:30:11 AM »

Actually red can still lose here...   laugh It's just very unlikely. For example 66 every time would mean that white can bear off in 5 rolls and 2-1 every time for red would take 6 rolls after correct move. And white's on roll so it's not even close.  Smiley

Yes, and actually white will want just 1 6-6 doublet, because after the first 6-6, any 5-5,4-4 and 3-3 will suffice and after the second doublet, actually EVERY doublet will do te job. But also this will happen if red rolls 2-1 all the time, which is very unlikely as you said, but GNUBG should have reflected this fact in it's analysis IMHO.

Nice point BTW. thumbsup

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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2008, 06:32:02 PM »


By the way, I can stop posting my positions if they're considered to be too easy.


Of course not - as I said once before all problems have value regardless of their difficulty, largely because of the quality of the explanations from the experts. It's of much, much greater value to know why a move is correct than which is the correct one.
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