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Question: Red to play 6-6
17/11-13/7-8/2(2) - 0 (0%)
8/2(2)-7/1*(2) - 6 (50%)
17/5-8/2(2) - 0 (0%)
13/7(2)-8/2(2) - 2 (16.7%)
13/1*- 8/2(2) - 4 (33.3%)
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« on: February 01, 2009, 10:52:35 AM »

Position information:

Pip-count:   Red 109-88 White
Score:        Red    0-4   White (Crawford game)
Match:                 5-pointer

Red to play 6-6

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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2009, 10:59:04 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2009, 08:29:57 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2009, 03:03:10 PM »

It doesn't appear to be correct to eschew the closeout at any score. If Red tries 13/1*, 8/2(2), he rarely picks up a second checker and most often of course has to complete the board soon anyway.

2-away 1-away crawford at least gives not closing better in gnu roll-out.
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2009, 06:31:56 PM »

Absolutely correct yes, I should have said that PL's play isn't correct at any score. At 2-away, 1-away it would be correct to play 13/1*, 8/2(2) and that might even be as good as the closeout for money. However, it is a play that requires more skill than just closing out, notably when you face the "Do I close the board now, or do I give it another roll to try and recycle a checker?" It may also be correct later to break the 6 prime before closing out, another tough play that you give yourself. White's play remains trivial throughout of course.
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2009, 07:22:56 PM »

Yeah, I close out the board and take the point. The next game, at 4-1 non crawford and cubed on the first roll, is the one to get fancy in, if you get the shot.
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2009, 12:57:46 AM »

What will happen if Red close-out White? Yes, Red will conduct his bear-ins with more ease, BUT what about bear-offs?
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