Are you for real.. No, I'm sure this is just another effort to provoke, and probably should be removed...

ok i've posted this exact quote before but i think i needs repeating:

"To hear one voice clearly, we must have freedom to hear them all."



ps, someone just shoot me now, i actually agree w/ dorbel on this one.

There's no rule that moderators can't post their opinions and be part of discussions, or that they should maintain some neutral stance while doing so.

All you can expect is that moderators try to be neutral while moderating; not while posting. I think in general all moderators have done a pretty good job at that.

Personally I don't think that "drama" is an argument to move a thread to limbo; there's no rule here that drama isn't allowed. Personal attacks would be a reason though. I don't know exactly what triggered diane to move the thread, as some posts seem to have been edited already.

We have seen at least two recent examples of moderators censoring posts in threads and/or moving threads that they themselves are engaged in. There is a clear conflict of interest here. Should this practice continue?

difficult if they are the only moderators 'on watch' i'd say..

returning from just 2 days respite, we unpack , feed the cat again and dab some brandy on my sore tooth. i then check my answerphone, emails and finally this site..

i have several PMs from folks referring to moderation .. here is my collective reply

we have Moderators who moderate  --

our basic tenet is to allow

we strive not to delete

and we put contentious stuff in a non Public Limbo board

all this in an effort to allow a Forum for backgammon related threads based loosely around Fibs and other backgammon servers

we do allow discussion on current affairs and issues our members feel strongly about, and we have areas set aside for folks to use

we try not to allow bickering of the sort that can arise in Public Chat on the backgammon servers, and try to encourage our posters to post considered comment which is not personal and which is self edited

this is evidently impossible for quite a few and consequently involves others to moderate which in turn gets them highlighted

i for one have neither the time nor the energy to deal with this on 24/24 basis, and i suspect other moderators are just the same

we do however share out this burden

and i post here a request for everyone to think twice before posting, to re -read whatever they post and self-edit, and realise that this particular Moderator has toothache and a tolerance of less than 1%..

also any energy i do have remaining for this site, is best put into the revamp it will need shortly rather than dealing with 'he said this/she said that"

Things just went from bad to worse.......I didn't expect my "stirred the pot and fanned the flames" point to be reinforced quite so quickly.

It is what dorbel said, I read it myself.  He wasn't calling anybody silly, he was referring to the situation.  And as long as individuals are not being abused, who is to say what does or does not add any 'content' to a discussion?

Moderate or get off the pot!

Consider this..a person is defined by their actions, that is certainly my belief system....now tell me again, it was not me you were calling silly..since you were saying that my action to side with others was the silliest thing ever.

Now, add to that, I was not siding with anyone, I was recalling events as they are in my mind. I was first to post.

When one person does not agree with your version of events, but that of everyone else...maybe it isn't a conspiracy - maybe you are wrong.

When I described you as silly, you duly reported it as a post which needs moderating.

Also, you have asked for a post to be moderated which describes you as the best backgammon player ever. It is also a thread which you have not only participated in, but started.

You opened that can of worms, you have to be prepared for what falls out.

It is a sad state of affairs when the most active fibsboard member at reporting posts writes a thread about over moderating as soon as something THEY have written is questioned.

Since you do not seem t understand how moderating works, how to avoid drama, how to interact with other humans and seem to lack any kind of empathy at all..I shall wander off and do something value adding with my time, and leave you navel gazing here. If Persian Lord says something you dont like..tough.

Here is a t-shirt for you all .. stog you could make some money with this one
Was it not the Greeks that said everything in Moderation ?  I did not know this was unique to the expat English ,

A response to

Are deleted posts saved anywhere? Because if they are, pull it up and read it and post it.

would be nice.

A response to  would be nice.

The moderator has already said this is a ridiculous thread.  Your post has been deleted, misrepresented and scoffed at, what more of a response do you need?   

When I delete, I sometimes save the deletion and sometimes not, depending on what it is.  We have a moderator board and that's where my saved deletions usually end up.

socksey



War doesn’t determine who’s right. War determines who’s left. - unknown