June 20, 2013, 11:04:13 AM
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
Did you miss your
activation email?
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News
: Free Competition --3 won copies of Bgblitz2Go details here
http://www.fibsboard.com/free-competition-win-bgblitz2go-p85
Home
Forum
Chat
links
PLAY NOW!
Help
Search
Calendar
Login
Register
FIBS Board backgammon forum
>
Forum
>
Backgammon
>
Fibsboard Forum Matches
>
FFM1
(Moderator:
blitzxz
) >
Match 1, Game 1, Move 7, Factotum
Pages: [
1
]
Go Down
« previous
next »
Print
Author
Topic: Match 1, Game 1, Move 7, Factotum (Read 1375 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
blitzxz
Moderator
Fibsboarder plus
Offline
Posts: 377
Match 1, Game 1, Move 7, Factotum
«
on:
April 09, 2009, 11:54:36 AM »
6-5?
Logged
socksey
Global Moderator
Advanced Fibsboarder
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 2,490
Re: Match 1, Game 1, Move 7, Factotum
«
Reply #1 on:
April 09, 2009, 12:03:47 PM »
Bar/20, 13/7.
socksey
"Usually we figure out what we think would make us happy, and then try to make those things happen. But happiness isn't circumstance-dependent. There are people who have every reason in the world to be happy who aren't. There are people with genuine problems who are. The key to happiness is the decision to be happy." - Marianne Williamson
Logged
FIBS Board backgammon forum
Re: Match 1, Game 1, Move 7, Factotum
«
Reply #1 on:
April 09, 2009, 12:03:47 PM »
Logged
diane
Fibsboard Executive VIP Donor 2013
Expert
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 3,932
Re: Match 1, Game 1, Move 7, Factotum
«
Reply #2 on:
April 09, 2009, 12:28:58 PM »
bar-20, 22-16, if the 16 is hit, then there is the option to make the 20 point and play the game differently, if it isnt, it might catch one of those escapees.
Logged
Never give up on the things that make you smile
factotum
Fibsboard Forum Special Guest Player
Fibsboarder
Offline
Posts: 45
Re: Match 1, Game 1, Move 7, Factotum
«
Reply #3 on:
April 09, 2009, 01:05:17 PM »
bar-20, 22-16. Keeping a 3rd checker on the midpoint is a plus. The only really bad possibility is a double hit.
Logged
diane
Fibsboard Executive VIP Donor 2013
Expert
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 3,932
Re: Match 1, Game 1, Move 7, Factotum
«
Reply #4 on:
April 09, 2009, 02:41:30 PM »
I am still a bit confused here, why is this roll posted, when we are still voting [until April 10th] on what the forum will move [move 6]..this assumes the hit was done...did we hit a majority or something?
Logged
Never give up on the things that make you smile
dropper
Fibsboard Executive VIP Donor
Fibsboarder
Offline
Posts: 32
Re: Match 1, Game 1, Move 7, Factotum
«
Reply #5 on:
April 09, 2009, 04:22:12 PM »
Possibly throwing a spanner in the works, but could the fibsboard forum match be played as a chouette? So we each get our own doubling cubes, we'd have a captain who gets the final decision and the box stays on if they win otherwise the captain then becomes the box?
Maybe it's too complex but it would teach people who to play chouettes and I suspect more than a few fibsters haven't encountered them. To really work it'd need its own site carefully set up for that purpose. Basically we want a sort of version of DailyGammon created specially...
Logged
The fibster formerly known as alef.
blitzxz
Moderator
Fibsboarder plus
Offline
Posts: 377
Re: Match 1, Game 1, Move 7, Factotum
«
Reply #6 on:
April 09, 2009, 04:27:43 PM »
Quote from: diane on April 09, 2009, 02:41:30 PM
I am still a bit confused here, why is this roll posted, when we are still voting [until April 10th] on what the forum will move [move 6]..this assumes the hit was done...did we hit a majority or something?
Yeah.. 100 % votes (all 8 ) for the 24/17* in previous topic. So I moved on earlier.
Logged
blitzxz
Moderator
Fibsboarder plus
Offline
Posts: 377
Re: Match 1, Game 1, Move 7, Factotum
«
Reply #7 on:
April 14, 2009, 07:26:06 AM »
No one has noted so quick comment about this one. The play bar/20 22/16 here is a blunder which I would have made without any thought also. You generally want to get moving from back and not waste moves in your own homefield. It's also counterintuative to take the spare from mid but the position is unusual also. The most important reason is that black (the forum) has many very nice rolls, double shots and point n shots which work perfectly after white brings his checker on silver platter and these shots are followed with powerful cube. So the tactical side is here more important then the general strategy. Noticing the rare case when tactical points overrides good strategy is very hard thing to do and is common error for the very best players I've played against in FIBS.
Logged
Zorba
Fibsboard Executive VIP Donor 2013
Fibsboarder ++
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 711
fear my cube
Re: Match 1, Game 1, Move 7, Factotum
«
Reply #8 on:
April 14, 2009, 06:04:04 PM »
Yes, this is a surprise to me too, especially the size of the error...
From the bot results it looks like it's mostly the extra gammon losses from 22/16 that make it a bad play.
I guess in hindsight, it's just bad to put that blot into the outfield, when opponent (us, the forum) most likely wants to move
his
blots in the outfield and create a safer position. Putting the checker on a silver plate, like blitzxz wrote. By creating hits there, you make it much easier for opponent to get safe in the outfield with the bonus of sending a checker to the roof.
1. Cubeful 2-ply bar/20 13/7 Eq.: -0,0680
48,43 15,73 0,60 - 51,57 16,51 0,37
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
2. Cubeful 2-ply bar/20 22/16 Eq.: -0,1681 ( -0,1001)
47,17 15,13 0,78 - 52,83 20,74 0,51
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
1. Cubeful 3-ply bar/20 13/7 Eq.: -0,1193
46,96 15,79 0,70 - 53,04 17,69 0,42
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
2. Cubeful 3-ply bar/20 22/16 Eq.: -0,2052 ( -0,0859)
46,00 15,34 0,93 - 54,00 22,02 0,52
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
1. Cubeful 4-ply bar/20 13/7 Eq.: -0,0569
48,63 16,09 0,74 - 51,37 16,69 0,41
4-ply cubeful prune
2. Cubeful 4-ply bar/20 22/16 Eq.: -0,1531 ( -0,0962)
47,56 15,48 0,96 - 52,44 21,09 0,53
4-ply cubeful prune
Logged
The fascist's feelings of insecurity run so deep that he desperately needs a classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the fascist's embracement of concepts like mental illness and IQ tests. - R.J.V.
Luck is my main skill
Pages: [
1
]
Go Up
Print
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
FIBSBoard general
-----------------------------
=> Announcements
===> Recent News
=> General Chit Chat
===> Campaigns
===> Ideas Science and Philosophy
===> Recipes & Food
===> Writing
=====> Leudwulf
===> Music
===> Tourney Schedule
=> Pictures & Links
=> Feedback & Questions
-----------------------------
Backgammon
-----------------------------
=> News & events
=> Backgammon
=> Backgammon problems
=> Fibsboard Forum Matches
===> FFM1
===> FFM2
===> FFM3
===> FFM4
===> FFM 5
===> FFM 6
===> FFM 7
===> FFM 8
===> FFM 9
===> FFM 10
===> FFM 11
===> FFM 12
===> FFM 13
===> FFM 14
===> Fibsboard Forum Match 15
=> Instructions & Discussions
=> Improving your backgammon skills
=> Using backgammon software
=> Money play
-----------------------------
First Internet Backgammon Server (FIBS)
-----------------------------
=> F.I.B.S. general support
=> Droppers
=> Gathering of Fibsters
=> R.I.P
=> Apologies
-----------------------------
Other Fibslike free Backgammon Servers
-----------------------------
=> Tigergammon server --Feedback & Discussion
=> Melbourne BG Server
-----------------------------
FIBS Client software
-----------------------------
=> 3DFibs
=> JavaFibs
=> DelFibs
=> CocoaFibs
=> Mobile Fibs clients
=> RealFibs
=> C4 Fibs
=> Other Fibsclients
-----------------------------
Leagues and tournaments
-----------------------------
=> International Internet Backgammon Federation
=> Fibsleagammon
=> Team Leagues
=> Fibs-O-Nacci
=> Inter-Nation Tournament
=> FIBS postcard tournaments.
=> Other Tournaments
-----------------------------
Bots & other tech stuff
-----------------------------
=> TourneyBot
=> TourneyStatsBot
=> RepBot
=> Other bots & tech stuff.
-----------------------------
Other BG servers
-----------------------------
=> General
=> BGroom
=> Gammon Empire
=> Play65
-----------------------------
Other Online Games
-----------------------------
=> Poker
=> Chess
=> GO
=> Scrabble
=> Botchee
=> other games
-----------------------------
Management
-----------------------------
=> Front Page
Please Donate just a wee amount by clicking here or we will have to stick more bloody small ads here again...thx :)
Fresh Air
Terms & Conditions
|
Privacy policy
|
Accessability
Loading...
TinyPortal
© 2005-2012