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Game 1, move 26, The Herd to play 2-2
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Question:
Herd to play 2-2?
(Voting closed: July 05, 2010, 10:38:19 PM)
13/11(4)
0 (0%)
13/11(3) 8/6
9 (81.8%)
13/11(2) 8/6 7/5
1 (9.1%)
13/11 10/6 8/6
1 (9.1%)
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Topic: Game 1, move 26, The Herd to play 2-2 (Read 1286 times)
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Game 1, move 26, The Herd to play 2-2
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July 04, 2010, 10:37:42 PM »
Another string of forced, obvious and insignificant plays:
Herd 66: B/19 19/13(3) last vote
dorbel 63: 5/off 5/2 forced
Herd 64: 13/7 10/6 pretty obvious and insignificant
dorbel 53: 5/off 2/off
Herd 52: 13/6 obvious
dorbel 43: 2/off(2)
and now the Herd rolls a 2-2:
XGID=----BBDAA-A--D---------ag-:1:1:1:22:0:0:0:5:10
GNUBg Id: fwEAALC9Eg8AAA:UQmpAAAAAAAA
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Re: Game 1, move 26, The Herd to play 2-2
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July 05, 2010, 12:03:29 AM »
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8/6 because it moves a checker into the homeboard without any wastage, then 13/11(3) to make three more transitions.
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Re: Game 1, move 26, The Herd to play 2-2
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Re: Game 1, move 26, The Herd to play 2-2
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Quote from: sixty_something on July 05, 2010, 02:39:03 AM
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we are gammoned even with back to back 55 or 66 unless we move 13/11 (4), but my original vote was for 8/6 13/11 (3), too .. nice pick for a problem
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.. it looked trivial at first
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No, cant count that to make it happen...maybe I will set it up on the board to prove it to myself...
But my reasoning now says if we move 8/6 13/11 (3), we end up with a pip on 13, instead of one on the 11 AND one on the 8 - and I cant see how that changes our transition requirements...
If you changed your mind, you didnt change your vote yet.
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when I am replying to make sure I get the numbers right...this is ACE!!
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Re: Game 1, move 26, The Herd to play 2-2
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nm, i didn't have my glasses on and couldn't tell there were two extra checkers on the ace point
so, we are not necessarily gammoned .. i think i'll delete that last post and leave my vote as is
yeah, obviously i really like this new layout too .. i used a lot of energy trying to get the board image in the poll adopted .. this new layout is better still particularly with not having to depend on external image hosting web sites .. hmmm, progress and consensus? could this really be FIBS related?
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Re: Game 1, move 26, The Herd to play 2-2
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8/6-7/5-13/11(2)
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Re: Game 1, move 26, The Herd to play 2-2
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XG rollout:
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The obvious play, making 4 cross-overs without wasting a pip, is right; 7/5 instead of 13/11 is also good. The play to avoid is 13/11 10/6 8/6, which makes only three cross-overs where you can make four. We're pretty desperate to save the gammon here, so we need some good high doubles anyhow, best to minimize cross-overs and prepare for those 5-5's or 6-6's we're gonna get!
1. Rollout¹ 13/11(3) 8/6 eq:-2,228
Player : 0,00% (G:0,00% B:0,00%)
Opponent: 100,00% (G:93,35% B:0,00%)
Confidence: ± 0,001 (-2,229<E<-2,227)
Duration: 0,3 second
2. Rollout¹ 13/11(2) 8/6 7/5 eq:-2,230 (-0,002)
Player : 0,00% (G:0,00% B:0,00%)
Opponent: 100,00% (G:93,54% B:0,00%)
Confidence: ± 0,001 (-2,231<E<-2,229)
Duration: 0,3 second
3. Rollout¹ 13/11 10/6 8/6 eq:-2,285 (-0,058)
Player : 0,00% (G:0,00% B:0,00%)
Opponent: 100,00% (G:97,56% B:0,00%)
Confidence: ± 0,001 (-2,286<E<-2,284)
Duration: 0,3 second
¹ 2592 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves: 1 ply, cube decisions: 3 ply Red
eXtreme Gammon Version: 1.14, MET: Rockwell-Kazaross
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Re: Game 1, move 26, The Herd to play 2-2
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Quote from: diane on July 05, 2010, 03:54:02 AM
[and what luxury to be able to see the board next to the options
and
when I am replying to make sure I get the numbers right...this is ACE!!
]
Quote from: sixty_something on July 05, 2010, 04:22:47 AM
yeah, obviously i really like this new layout too .. i used a lot of energy trying to get the board image in the poll adopted .. this new layout is better still particularly with not having to depend on external image hosting web sites .. hmmm, progress and consensus? could this really be FIBS related?
Thanks for the efforts, sixty, stog, diane, this is indeed a great solution we have now!
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