Here are the personnal results of the first session

Here are the country results.

Thanks Tom,

I think the above is as a result of an e-mail i sent Tomawaky suggesting 4 or 5 am in Australia was a tough appointment to meet on a regular basis    

I'm very keen to participate in this great idea and note no Australians took part in the first running.  Would any Td consider running some of the "Bagolympic" sessions at say 15:00 GMT as with the Friday 3's, or even earlier ? Pweeezzee ?? This would make it achievable here  

I'll understand if it's not possible but thought there no harm in asking    Besides i had to make my first post sometime    

 

Tourney 687:

Backwoods: Finland: WON round 2, round 3, 4: POINTS: 3 + 3
burper: USA: out in round 2, points: 0
CornCob  Germany: out in round 2, points: 0
dalaras: Greece: out in R2, points: 0
dAnel: germany: out in round 2, points: 0
DirtyHarryII: out in round 1, points: 0
elmroth: Sweden: out in round 2, points: 0
gogogiz great britain: won round 2, out in round 3: POINTS: 1
Hondo: USA: WON R1, out in round 2: POINTS: 1
juanz  Spain: WON 2,3, out in 4,  POINTS: 2
makalu: Switzerland: out in round 2, points: 0
MateoZ  Bolivia: WON round 2, round 3, out in 4,  POINTS: 2
Mort: WON 2,3, out in 4,  POINTS: 2
nocivo_para_la_salud: country? out in round 2, points: 0
resh_lakish: Isreal, won round 2, lost in round 3,  POINTS: 1
socksey says: usa: WON 2,3,4,  POINTS: 3 + 5
sticks: usa: out in round 1, points: 0
wyzzz: USA: WON round 2,3, out in 4,  POINTS: 2


points:
socksey 8, Backwoods 6, wyzzz, Mort, MateoZ, juanz with 2 each, resh_lakish, Hondo and gogogiz with 1 each

** You tell TourneyBot: matches all tourney 687
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TourneyBot says: Listing all matches of Tourney #687:
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TourneyBot says: T687R1M1 (3-pt): socksey (1613) def. DirtyHarryII (1659) 5-1
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TourneyBot says: T687R1M2 (3-pt): Hondo (1565) def. sticks (1433) 3-2
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TourneyBot says: T687R2M1 (3-pt): socksey (1613) def. dAnel (1634) 3-1
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TourneyBot says: T687R2M2 (3-pt): juanz (1647) def. CornCob (1744) 3-0
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TourneyBot says: T687R2M3 (3-pt): gogogiz (1646) def. burper (1720) 3-0
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TourneyBot says: T687R2M4 (3-pt): MateoZ (1604) def. nocivo_para_la_salud (1480)
 4-1
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TourneyBot says: T687R2M5 (3-pt): resh_lakish (1539) def. elmroth (1875) 5-1
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TourneyBot says: T687R2M6 (3-pt): Backwoods (1731) def. makalu (1279) 3-1
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TourneyBot says: T687R2M7 (3-pt): Mort (1646) def. dalaras (1771) 4-0
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TourneyBot says: T687R2M8 (3-pt): wyzzz (1499) def. Hondo (1565) 3-2
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TourneyBot says: T687R3M1 (3-pt): socksey (1613) def. juanz (1647) 3-2
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TourneyBot says: T687R3M2 (3-pt): MateoZ (1604) def. gogogiz (1646) 4-0
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TourneyBot says: T687R3M3 (3-pt): Backwoods (1731) def. resh_lakish (1539) 6-0
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TourneyBot says: T687R3M4 (3-pt): Mort (1646) def. wyzzz (1499) 3-1
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TourneyBot says: T687R4M1 (3-pt): socksey (1613) def. MateoZ (1604) 1-0
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TourneyBot says: T687R4M2 (3-pt): Backwoods (1731) def. Mort (1646) 3-1
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TourneyBot says: T687R5M1 (5-pt): socksey (1613) def. Backwoods (1731) 5-3

I'm with Mano, the only time used should be what it says when you type "time" whilst logged into fibs.  This seems obvious to me as a solid , universal point of reference.

Still keen for thoughts re : staggering of Bagolympics session times .......    

have made correction for the 3 first burper tell me if I am wrong ?

wyzzz: USA: WON round 2, out in 3, POINTS: 1
socksey says: usa: WON 1,2,3,4,5 POINTS: 5 + 3
juanz Spain: WON 2, out in 3, POINTS: 1

Backwoods: Finland: WON round 2, 3, 4: POINTS: 3 + 1
gogogiz great britain: won round 2, out in round 3: POINTS: 1
Hondo: USA: WON R1, out in round 2: POINTS: 1
MateoZ Bolivia: WON round 2, round 3, out in 4, POINTS: 2
Mort: WON 2,3, out in 4, POINTS: 2
resh_lakish: Isreal, won round 2, lost in round 3, POINTS: 1
 

tap tap tap..... hello, does this mike work ? tap tap........

Hi,

I just wanted to explore options for the Bagolympics, specifically the starting times but also if i may the format ?

First can i say i appreciate i should have spoken up prior to it's commencement and apologise for this but have reasons of timing i wont bore you with.  Sufficed to say, given it looks like continuing for perhaps years and is such a great idea i still felt it worth my while commenting on it now.

So,  ........   given it is designed as a global event can i suggest staggering the session times around the clock , say 00:00 ,  06:00 ,  12:00  &  18:00 (GMT or whichever universal time clock is settled on) to canvas all time zones and give ALL coutries a chance to compete in at least some of the sessions.  As i mentioned in an earlier post, regular  placement in the wee-small hours for some countries is difficult to attend regularly if at all.

A simpler option ??........every Sunday is say 8 Am  .. and every Tuesday is 8 Pm .

I understand it is up to TD's (god bless 'em    ) ability to make it at certain times but surely this is not insurmountable ? Or are you all from the same time zone ?   If so perhaps we could recruit one or two specifically for the purpose of Bagolympics who live on the other side of the world and are willing and able.

(This would be seem appropriate time to mention my apprecitaion for those who have chosen to be TD's for the benefit of others and my regret at not doing it myself. My decision not to is based on..... my working week is a 24/7 rotating roster that removes ANY consistency from week to week. Much of my bg play is done AT work    and there i am at risk of HAVING to leave at any moment. Basically rendering me unreliable for regular appointments    That said i am more than willing to help in any way i can outside of these limitations and try to contribute to the amazing efforts y'all have put in so far !  Read : gogo sox diane Tom burp brizzy mano webr alley kari houtx :kiss: , you get the idea )

Final minor point on start times, why are some at 8PM and some 9PM ? isn't the time issue confusing enough without adding that little hurdle ?  

So that's how i feel about start times for a global event

Now i will mention my ideas on the format, for the record

I fear the results over time will prove a significant weighting for those countries with the most fibsters (read US )  You may have seen other competitions such as "World Idol" and the "Eurovision Song Contest" that weight the voting system according to population in the relevant country. I don't suggest we do that but do point out that this outcome should be expected.

You can see this trend has already begun after just a few session so far. This takes away some of the competative edge for the smaller countries (read Australia plus countless others on fibs   ) .  It then becomes mostly an individual event in the long run (not a bad thing but clearly not the intent of the Tourney .

To alleiviate this trend and it's consequences  i fear the format would have to be radically changed           and i concede this would be a much more significant decision at this stage, than just changing the session times.

 Sooooo........... I would like to open this topic up for further discussion for the long term  as well as the time issue  

My initial ideas would involve both  tourneybot AND a team league situation !!   A Indivual>Country Qualification TourneyBot and then a Global Team FibsLeague Tourney perhaps   These could repeat throughout the year in quarterly intervals , perhaps Many options......

I've had minor chats/shouts on the subject so far but clearly this is the appropriate forum  


What do you think please ?


<<<<passes the mike  


 

> can i suggest staggering the session times around the clock

No problem for me give me TD.

> why are some at 8PM and some 9PM

First. As you ask upper, "give everybody a chance to compete in at least some of the sessions". And when I post a poll on your prefered time these were the most appreciate hours.

Second. TD availaibility..... no more  

> I fear the results over time will prove a significant weighting for those countries with the most fibsters

Except for USA and the planning which does not make favorite some country, I think that the distribution of the players by country must be balanced enough !

But with USA it's always the same problem, just look the global result of Olympic game ! And you will see USA ahead.

I have think about average, but it can be circumvented easily.

Some speak about Europe, but it will become a match Europe-USA  

>My initial ideas would involve both tourneybot AND a team league situation

That a good idea, and many people are interested in a country team competition, but I don't personnaly want to manage it.
Nevertheless, the actual Bagolympic could be a first step to qualify the better players for a country. Just clic on the flag and you will find a country ranking.

Yes but what is the max number that we can accept for one country ?
That is the point.
The better thing would be certainly to have an average count in case of having the numbers of players for a country greater than this max number and a sum in other case !
But I am not sur if it's easy to do with one only SQL command ! <_<

GB is not as BIG as you said. They just have done big tourneys.

To let you know the fact. In the last session, I succed to motivate 4 or 5 Frenchies and all of them (me include) have lost in the first round    (2 players from australia were here)

I am agree that US players are certainly too many but not for others countries. It's up to us to motivate other players from our country to take part.

PS :


I just looked at the Bagolympics table utilising..........

"Tomawaky"

 

Thoughts ;    


1) Brilliant !!       fibster / by / country   ranking !!! !!!    :agree:

    Has fantastic potential.     Apart from the country search on fibsleague i haven't seen anything like it done before   GW Tomawaky  :beer:




2) In early stages of current format number of players scoring / by /   country ...........  listed in order of total score so far is,

    usa  -  10
    great britain    -   4
    sweden - 1
    spain - 1
    finland - 1
    isreal - 2
    germany - 3
    australia  - 1
    denmark - 1
    bolivia  -  1
    belgium  - 1
    france  -  1


For me QED !  Game over !      

That is, this progression of total score will continue as long as this format remains  <_<   It is merely a numbers game now not a competition.  Seems a shame when it really is an impressive list of countries so far  

It also helped me understand your comment about averaging down and sums Toma' but i still don't know what a SQL is     I dont think that would work here personally but would be willing to try any change of format  

Ok I think I've made my point lol  Will sing now  



         

Remember that it is a list of player who earned points but player who subscribe and lost in first round are not listed. So if 8 Aussies have signed up and lost, you would not be able to see them.  

It's maybe better to add players with 0 Pt ?


It's just a Language to retrieve data from a database