Oh dear burper, how painful it is to see you so confused.
I took the words "I goofed" from your own post and inferred not unreasonably from the rest of the content that you were then attempting to justify yourself. You weren't you say? Yet you continue to offer the same justifications in your latest post, viz "Um no, it was actually listed as burper". It wasn't and it still isn't if you go to the page listing the tourney times and days!
".........and the description stated clearly that it was Bago" No burper, I triple checked the shout log at the time, right back to the 30 minute announcement, but no hint that tourney 93 was a Bagolympic qualifier ever appeared in shouts. Mort , scardy et al were of the same opinion.
Criticism may appear rude to you burper, as we may again reasonably infer from the tone of your latest post. However, here is a log of the few minutes after the tourney started. I have removed shouts that dont refer to the tourney for clarity. Readers may judge for themselves.
TBot shouts: *** Single Elimination Bracket Tourney #93 (Tourney #93) has just been
weaky shouts: welcher laenge?
juanz shouts: bagolimpyc number yet??
ROMA_L shouts: still time to play in the tourney?
lostoak shouts: burper is missing
burper shouts: it's tbot, not tourneybot
scardy shouts: burper its bago night so whats going on with it .does this mean the
listings on fibsboard are wrong
diane shouts: scardy what are you talking about?
burper shouts: scardy, why did you sign up if you don't want to play
diane shouts: check the description on this tourney
diane shouts: it is the first sunday after the tuesday
diane shouts: it is 9 o clock utc
diane shouts: burper is hositng
diane shouts: what is wrong?
burper shouts: scardy, PLEASE, see the bago page for rules!!! http://fibsleagammon.free.fr/bagolympic.htm
scardy shouts: got it burper
diane shouts: scardy says: sorry diane was nt clear
diane shouts: what wasnt clear for crying out loud?
diane shouts: i told you it was bagolympics
diane shouts: the tourney description says it is bg tourney
Mort shouts: enough already
purol shouts: whats the problem scardy
houtx shouts: thx burper for hosting
burper shouts: yw houtx
TBot shouts: *** Round 1 of Single Elimination Bracket Tourney #93 (Tourney #93)
has been completed! Round winners: NicklasE, diane, fibsterin ***
scardy shouts: not proper announcment of bagolympics .im not the only one who
Mort shouts: l agree scardy
scardy shouts: thx mort
Mort shouts: np...l had to ask myself
Mort shouts: and didn't get a resonse
Mort shouts: response
mrbond shouts: I'm with you there scardy
burper shouts: 19 people got it right
diane shouts: i dont understand the confusion
burper shouts: what were you unsure of?
scardy shouts: and 5 mins registration of a comp thats been great fun and one thats
ongoing needs more information
diane shouts: can someone tell me what the problem was?
You shout: possibly burper, but as the whole point is to be inclusive, a clearer annoncement
would have meant a larger entry
burper shouts: 30 minutes is standard, and that's what it was
scardy shouts: even your msg has no reference to bagoylimpics
burper shouts: clearer about what?
diane shouts: they have been running now for ages
Mort shouts: the tourney wasn't announced in shouts a bagolympic
diane shouts: you all know what it is and when
scardy shouts: sorry but bollocks
burper shouts: http://fibsleagammon.free.fr/bagolympic.htm
burper shouts: the rules are lear
burper shouts: clear
You shout: burper, diane, dont be defensive, learn something, the announcements
were not good and could have been clearer
NIHolympic shouts: theyre lear to
burper shouts: you know who is running it, when by what clock
Mort shouts: why are the TD's collectively being belligerent today?
diane shouts: did you read the tourney description??
diane shouts: first thing i did
burper shouts: belligerent about what? just trying to understand the confusion to be
better next time
Mort shouts: diane, you aren't everyone else
burper shouts: what were you unsure of?
diane shouts: TBot: Description: bagolympic sunday after first tuesday session
You shout: Before the tournament started, there was no clear general announcement
that it was a bagolympic event
diane shouts: that kinda says it
mrbond shouts: on "ALL" previous occassions when it has been a bgolympics, it
was clearly stated....
burper shouts: the title title states it is bago
mrbond shouts: this is the first time i have seen it that way
diane shouts: i don t think it is in the title
diane shouts: but a little checking sorts it out
diane shouts: and at the right time
scardy shouts: no reference to bagolympics even when you announced the round
diane shouts: with the right host
baldwin shouts: maybe change the little tittle into a clear tittle
mrbond shouts: but true that we are all aware of times and places regarding bgolympics,
diane n burper
diane shouts: it happens
diane shouts: get used to it
burper shouts: just human nature
You shout: I got in, but some who wanted to play didnt, because it wasnt very clearly
scardy shouts: sorry diane its a kin joke
burper shouts: info is never in the right format for people, or at the wrong time, or
delivered in the wrong tone
BOTKILLER shouts: i havent read the rules, but judging from the name, i thougth
the tourney was going to last several rounds during the real olympic
You shout: that has to be bad, because it could so easily have been put right.
scardy shouts: we re trying to get people interested in a great concept
burper shouts: then sign up and play scardy. you were signed up. spread the word
You shout: good grief burper, just tell people clearly, is that so hard?
scardy shouts: so get use to it doesnt wear well
burper shouts: good gried, state what was not clear
You shout: what is the point of making a constructive criticism if you are incapable
of making a positive response?
burper shouts: ok, maybe next time I WILL USE ALL CAPS
Shades shouts: what was??... what did I do this time??
burper shouts: no constructive criticism has been made. for the 5th time, WHAT WAS
NIHolympic shouts: all caps and smaller words
You shout: What a demonstrably bad attitude from the TD
burper shouts: *sigh*
burper shouts: no answer?
You shout: Is this being run for your benefit burper?
diane shouts: go to las vegas
diane shouts: mine
diane shouts: go to bed
diane shouts: it happens
diane shouts: was what i was saying
scardy shouts: no consistancy at all
You shout: A very poor show all round
scardy shouts: poor show
Judge for yourselves.
IMO burper continues to demonstrate the wisdom of his timely resignation, without appearing to have acquired any degree of self-knowledge in the process. I see that diane is wisely keeping her head down. I thought that her responses (see above) did her no credit either. Perhaps she is more capable of taking constructive criticism (see above) on board.
Mort, scardy, mrbond, juanz, Roma_L and myself are not disruptive children. We found the runup to the tourney confusing and we politely tried to bring this to the attention of the TD and suggest ways in which things could be better managed in the future. We were less than enchanted with the tone and content of the response.
It is true that I don't particularly like burper. He can be counted among the 1% of fibsters that I wouldn't particularly want to be stuck in a lift with. However, I don't approve of personal attacks on fibs and I regret any remarks that may have crossed that line in these two posts. My remarks are intended solely to improve the standard of Fibs tournaments for the benefit of all fibsters. Burpers resignation is IMO, a solid step in the right direction.