Serious now..what saddens me is not losing those who wish to make fibs 'interesting' by creating drama and filling a void in their life which only constant battling will do for them, but losing those 'thin skinned real players'.diane
The ones I met in vegas, who learned to play on fibs many years ago - and left because of the nastiness. The ones who left because you cannot run a tournament around here without someone making it unplayable.
The others I have met in various countries, who regard FIBs as some sort of dirty secret and something to be ashamed of, because it makes all bg players look bad.
The Euro bg parties still go ahead - but without the association with FIBs -because those players all got too fed up with the childishnes and nastiness of the place.
Kit Woolsey puts the money into the hardware, Patti spends huge amounts of time administering this place - do you think they do that for as many as perhaps 10 or 12 players to fight, argue and gang up on anyone new??
It is the first place new people find when they google backgammon online, it should be a great positive experience, where they meet new players, make friends and learn how to improve their play.
Do you think it is that right now?? Think of the BAGO tournament the other day - what a farce. All so some people can have a bit of a thrill.
The trouble makers losing some ability to cause trouble does not sadden me at all - I rejoice..it is a step in the right direction.
, thanks for that perspective .. you too, KDP
.. you both raise some very valid points and make me think (always a dangerous thing)
at FICS (First Internet Chess Server), the moderators are numerous, very active, and will crack down on abusers in a heartbeat .. the atmosphere is very different that at FIBS, just as the two games are very different .. FIBS shouts, IMO, reflect the very social game that backgammon is especially when compared to chess .. however, we can be social and still be civil .. FICS is a very strong community, just not nearly as raucous, but i have yet to make a single friend there compared to the many folks i have come to know and value as friends here at FIBS
a Houston based organization with which i have become involved is called The Institute for Civility - www.instituteforcivility.org
.. they address problems in congress, schools, local politics and individual relationships with positive results .. the Institute founders define civility as social engagement in which members are "caring and claiming ones identity, needs and beliefs without degrading someone else in the process"
at FIBS, we see a whole lot of folks caring and claiming an identity, each with unique and strong needs and beliefs .. unfortunately, we struggle with a lot of what appears to be degrading behaviour as well
i'm not suggesting any solutions, just noting that the issues with which we are currently struggling are not unique to us at FIBS, collectively or individually .. harping about the behaviour of one person or another misses that point completely .. we are but a microcosm and reflection of what happens in the real world
for me, FIBS as a "dirty little secret" also hits home .. i've mentioned my frustration at not feeling comfortable in inviting my grandson or even adult children to join me at FIBS for a game of backgammon .. i wouldn't hesitate to invite my grandson to play chess at FICS, but he seems to have lost his interest in chess .. today, he spends his game time, according to his mother, playing games on-line with his PlayStation .. while i am unsure of what games he is playing, i doubt they are any different from games teenage boys have played for generations, in other words violence based
chess and backgammon are fundamentally violence based games as well, just not as visual as modern HD graphic simulation games with bombs, bullets, and bloodshed .. regardless, i'd feel a lot more comfortable about the world my grandchildren will live in were i were playing chess and backgammon with them .. instead, i sit on the sideline watching young boys having fun using the simulation tools similar to those the military uses to train soldiers to be better killers; as bad or worse, IMO, was the news recently that a good gift for a granddaughter would be "anything Barbie" -- oey vey
anyway, that has noting to do with anything, just my thoughts provoked by diane
's comments -- i warned you that getting me to start thinking is dangerous