Should a Player be able to Blind anyone?

[inim]

Just happened today. "Do what I say and not what I do ...".

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TourneyBot shouts: Wed35 (#4805): FINALS (5pts) zackf 0 vs vegas_vic 2

> watch zackf
You're now watching zackf.

> show watchers
Watching players:
inim is watching zackf.
Ignaz is watching vegas_vic.
PersianLord is watching vegas_vic.
socksey is watching vegas_vic.
person is watching bonehead.
LadyLinda is watching vegas_vic.
AmzaPellea is watching dikran.

vegas_vic bans you from watching.


[Tom]

online if a watcher says nothing you do not see them

That is a good point.

I for one find it a LOT of fun to win my matches!

Tom

[socksey]

Just happened today. "Do what I say and not what I do ...".

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TourneyBot shouts: Wed35 (#4805): FINALS (5pts) zackf 0 vs vegas_vic 2

> watch zackf
You're now watching zackf.

> show watchers
Watching players:
inim is watching zackf.
Ignaz is watching vegas_vic.
PersianLord is watching vegas_vic.
socksey is watching vegas_vic.
person is watching bonehead.
LadyLinda is watching vegas_vic.
AmzaPellea is watching dikran.

vegas_vic bans you from watching.


Ah, the point here is that the tourney you were in today was Tom's tourney and Tom opposes the "no blinding in final" rule, so of course vegas_vic felt comfortable in blinding you, inim.  

I have no problem with differences in the rules of different tourneys, nor would I try to enforce my tourney rules on someone else's tourney or in a tourney I am an alternate TD of.  

Neither do I have a problem with anyone watching me play.  I know how to use the gag feature if I don't want to listen to anyone in my matches, or if they undo my gag, I feel comfortable blinding them as well.  

socksey



Instead of giving a politician the keys to the city, it might be better to change the locks.  ~Doug Larson[/b][/size]

[vegasvic]

Dear Inim,

You have me blinded and gagged .... i do not have you blinded gagged .
Now when and if Tom puts in a rule for watching matches in his tourney i would be happy to abide by his rules .

THERE WAS NO SUCH RULE AND SO I BLINDED YOU KNOWING YOU WOULD COME RUNNING IN HERE TO POST IT !!

[garp_02]

Nice to see Vic back - talking hypocritical crap as always 

[PersianLord]

Garpapa, how do you dare to come back to FB after that shameful drop in the other thread?!

Save FB residents a favor and get back to your hole.

PL

[garp_02]

Drop? Hole?  Je ne comprends pas!!!!!

I will post when and where I wish - if I choose to, or not to, it is my decision.

It's something we leftists call freedom of choice (nothing to do with economics) - look it up

[moonshadow]

I still want to come up with a set of common rules... which I am sure will take some time...

I like the idea of no blinding in supposedly 'fun' FIBs tourneys but I realize its not that simple for the reasons others have already given. However, whatever the consensus on whether to blind or not, I really like the notion Tom has put forth of some common rules that all TDs adhere to and are put down in writing.

TDs also need to be able to have some flexibility to make exceptions to some of the rules when circumstances dictate, as when a Player or Watcher claims they are keeping the rules, but its clear that is not their true intent. This is another issue and has more to do with the wisdom and competency of the individual TD than anything else.

[moonshadow]

These tourneys are for fun and for some a learning experience ,lets not lose sight of that.

I found this quite amusing, as my idea of fun and yours are quite different.

Before you were permanently shout neutered by patti because of your complete lack of self-control, your idea of tourney fun, to put it mildly, was to loudly and shamelessly bring as much public attention to yourself as possible, often at the expense of others who had no wish to be part of your antics.

One example of this that I thought especially distasteful and ungracious was your shouting out the Gnu Error Rates of opponents after tourney matches. A number of your tourney opponents never shout nor make a spectacle of themselves and unless you had there permission to do so, you braying their Error Rates or Luck Rates in public only demonstrated that your Error Rate on the jackass scale was fairly high.

Numerous other examples from the past decade could be given.

I agree tourneys should be a fun and a learning experience and perhaps you have changed, but you almost sound like the pyromaniac who has been burning down houses for a decade thinking thats perfectly acceptable behavior, then telling everyone,  "Hey, let's have some fun!"

[socksey]

Since the voting seems to have come to an end, and since some of you are using this thread to malign others rather than sticking to the topic, I am going to lock this topic now. 

Please review the rules of this forum posted on the front page here. 

socksey

[diane]

I don't think this discussion is over, but socksey is correct that it is degenerating somewhat.

I have unlocked for anyone to add pertinent points, ideally those who have not already contributed.

Any posts pursuing argument, rather than commenting on the actual poll question, will be dealt with individually.

[Tom]

I agree with locking this topic.

[edit] I was asked why it is now locked. - I am DONE with this thread. If someone else wants to talk about they can start a new thread. I want no part of it.

The discussion is over.

[diane]

Well, so it seems..and the outcome..no change to status quo.

If you are finished with this discussion, as the originator, and feel you have got what you need - then lock it and I guess anyone else is free to start another.