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Backgammon => Fibsboard Forum Matches => FFM 17 => Topic started by: stog on January 22, 2014, 03:25:00 PM

Poll
Question:
Option 1: 13/8
Option 2: 24/20 8/7
Option 3: 13/9 24/23
Option 4: 13/9 8/7
Title: Fibsboard Forum Match 17 Game 3 Move 8 Herd to play
Post by: stog on January 22, 2014, 03:25:00 PM
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Title: Re: Fibsboard Forum Match 17 Game 3 Move 8 Herd to play
Post by: Julia_H on January 22, 2014, 10:09:26 PM
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White's position just has to give with almost any non-6. Moving the back man up at all allows him to dump behind us and avoid a lot of bad numbers. So I'm down to 13/8 and 13/9 8/7. With a 6 he runs and it's not great for us either way, but not gammonish with our strong anchor. Slotting the bar does have a huge upside when things go well in that we slam the door on the back man and force even more awkward plays from White later.
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Title: Re: Fibsboard Forum Match 17 Game 3 Move 8 Herd to play
Post by: ah_clem on January 22, 2014, 11:40:17 PM
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We are at quasi-gammon save and behind a bunch in the pipcount.  Moving the runner up simply allows elmicho to dump behind our anchor, so that's not the right idea. And leaving shots seems like the wrong approach, although our advanced anchor is good insurance against being gammoned.  The prosaic 13/8 leaves no shots so that's my vote. 13/9 8/7  just seems to make his sixes play better since he can leap out with tempo.  It's better when it works, but 15 shots whack us and two whack us twice.

13/8 for me.

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Title: Re: Fibsboard Forum Match 17 Game 3 Move 8 Herd to play
Post by: KDP on January 23, 2014, 12:22:42 AM
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at first glance i thought about slotting the bar to try and build a prime but with 3 men back we really cant afford another if we're hit.  13-8 really doesnt do anything and i cant see any Giant making that play.  i would play 13-9 24-23.
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Title: Re: Fibsboard Forum Match 17 Game 3 Move 8 Herd to play
Post by: stiefnu on January 23, 2014, 01:19:06 AM
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We can surely afford to be bold. Even if we're hit, we might get a return and anyway we're nicely anchored while elmicho has no board.  13/9, 8/7
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Title: Re: Fibsboard Forum Match 17 Game 3 Move 8 Herd to play
Post by: diane on January 23, 2014, 01:25:39 AM
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13/8 is yuck, does nothing for flexibility. I feel we can be bold, but not suicidal..we do have a lot back - and a cube sitting snugly in our corner. I would like to move 24/20..but then the 1 doesnt do anything I like. I would play 13/8, 24/23 in this situation. 24/23 doesnt do anything good, but it also doesnt do anything bad. Ooo..it is nice to be on this side for a change  :laugh:
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Title: Re: Fibsboard Forum Match 17 Game 3 Move 8 Herd to play
Post by: ah_clem on January 23, 2014, 01:25:49 AM
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Seeing as how the vote is tied between 13/9 8/7 and 24/23 13/9, I'm switching my vote.

13/9 8/7 leaves too many shots.  13/9 24/23 certainly does more than 13/8, and only leaves 2 shots.  24/23 accomplishes nothing, but that's ok.

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