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Monday's Gladiatorial Combats - Official Thread

Started by PersianLord, May 04, 2008, 11:43:32 AM

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PersianLord

Monday's Gladiatorial Combats - Official Thread





Tournament's features :


1- Format :          

Single elimination

2- Match length:

3-pt/7-pt

3- Limits:              

- Minimum rating: 1400
- Minimum experience: 1000

4-Schedule:

Every monday - 18:00 GMT . Registration for the next round begins after finishing the current round. (i.e. registration will be open for 7 days a week)

5- Directors:

Will be decided each week.

6- Delays and drops:

- Each player who logs off after registration in the tournament, or refuses the invitation of his/her opponent, will be given 5 minutes to start his/her match. If s/he fails to do so, a victory shall be awarded for his/her opponent.

- Exept for the final match, all the normal matches shall not exceed 45 mins. If so, the tournament director will award a win to the player who is the favorite.

- Every participant who drops connection 3 times during one match, shall be forfeited.

7- Bot-using issue

- Every participant who suspects of his opponent using a bot during his/her match, can send the match file in .mat format to tournament directors and if after due analysis, it was proven that this was actually the case, the cheater shall be banned for future rounds.

8- Awards

i) Regular points

- 1 point for each participation
- 2 point for each victory
- 3 point for each finalist
- 5 point + 100 NACCI points for each round championship

These points are to be accumulated to decide the monthly and yearly winners who will claim the special points:

ii) Special points

- 50 points + 200 NACCI points for each monthly winner
- "Spartacus Title" + 500 NACCI points for the session winner


The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests.  - T.K

socksey

I'm a little confused.  Is the tourney played in real time or does it go on all week?   :huh:

socksey



God may have created man before woman - -but there is always a rough draft before the masterpiece. - unknown

nixo

#2
I am not natural english speaker nor reader but I think that is the registration for the tourney that is open from monday to monday until the tourney starts.

As it is stated in the tourney rules:

Quote4-Schedule:

Every monday - 18:00 GMT . Registration for the next round begins after finishing the current round. (i.e. registration will be open for 7 days a week)

And if I remember well the past discussion on the lenght of the tourney it is a live tourney that starts at 18:00 GMT

Hope it will help you socksey  ;)

QuoteBut I also have a question.
When do we register to the 1st tourney? I asked tourneybot but it does not seem to have any tourney created.
So does the registration proces start at 18:00 GMT tonight or is it the time for the fisrt round ?   :wacko:

Ok I had my answer in the shouts on Fibs : Registration is now open: tell TourneyBot register 2430
Play starts at 18:00 GMT :o

Nicolas

socksey

I had a private chat with PersianLord today before the tourney and he said registration begins at 1700, play begins at 1800.   ;)  Tourney is played real live time like usual tourneys on Fibs.   :)

socksey



With all the modern conveniences available, it's now possible to have a bad day and never leave the house. - Cheryl





PersianLord

#4
Monday's Gladiatorial Combats - 1st Round

Number of participants: 22

Matches played: 21

Favorite victories: 15 (71%)

Underdog victories: 6 (29%)

Winner: austin (1743)

Runner-up: DeaDice(1728)

Detailed results:

1-Preliminary Round (3-pt) :

wyzzz (1473) 3-0 Kyalia (1489)

adrian (1707) 3-0 johnwayne (1686)

Paul_William (1715) 3-0 rif_raf (1441)

juanz (1630) 3-0 teyakis (1644)

socksey (1600) 3-0 stog (1644)

blotsalot (1758) 3-0 miss_treat (1751)

2- 1/8 Final Round (3-pt) :

austin (1743) 3-0 wyzzz (1473)

Paul_William (1715) 4-1 Miccimalou (1576)

silent_greek (1525) 3-2 socksey (1600)

chopos (1465) 4-0 adz (1417)

FatElvis (1505) 3-1 bifz (1619)

samirah (1815) 3-2 blotsalot (1758)

nixo (1716) 7-1 juanz (1630)

DeaDice (1728) 3-2 adrian (1707)

3- 1/4 Final Round (3-pt) :

austin (1743) 4-2 Paul_William (1715)

silent_greek (1525) 3-0 chopos (1465)

FatElvis (1505) 12-0 samirah (1815)

DeaDice (1728) 3-0 nixo (1716)

4- Semi Final Round (3-pt):

austin (1743) 4-0 silent_greek (1525)

DeaDice (1728) 4-0 FatElvis (1505)

5- Final Round (7-pt):

austin (1743) 7-4 DeaDice (1728)

The matches marked with red are those won by pre-match underdogs.

Overal standings:



1- austin 17 pts
2- DeaDice 10 pts
3- FatElvis, Paul_William, silent_greek 5 pts
4- wyzzz, adrian, juanz, socksey, blotsalot, chopos, samirah, nixo 3 pts
5- Kyalia, johnwayne, rif_raf,teyakis, stog, miss_treat, Miccimalou, adz, bifz 1 pts

The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests.  - T.K

PersianLord

#5
Thanks to Frank's kind support, MGC is now also hosted at FLG:

http://fibsleagammon.free.fr/MGC.htm

This will make MGC, even more popular and we can have more fun.

By the way, I would like to continue using this thread as well, if the admins agree as some people are used to check updates here.

Again thank you, Frank.

Regards

The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests.  - T.K

PersianLord

#6
Monday's Gladiatorial Combats - 2nd Round

Number of participants: 15

Matchess played: 14

Favorite victories: 10 (71%)

Underdog victories: 4 (29%)

Winner: kofa (1701)

Runner-up: Backwoods (1825)

1-Preliminary Round (3-pt) :

spielberg (1641) 3-0 Smudger (1533)

adrian (1722) 4-0 miss_treat (1756)

Backwoods (1825) 3-0 qizwiz (1582)

Kofa (1701) 4-0 juanz (1651)

silent_greek (1526) 3-1 rif_raf (1436)

PersianLord (1810) 8-0 stog (1691)

DeaDice (1736) def. cowgirl (1665)

2- 1/4 Final Round (3-pt) :

Slipshod (1831) 3-2 spielberg (1641)

Backwoods (1825) 4-0 PersianLord (1810)

Kofa (1701) 3-0 silent_greek (1526)

DeaDice (1736) 3-2 adrian (1722)

3- Semi Final Round (3-pt):

Backwoods (1825) 4-0 Slipshod (1831)

Kofa (1701) 7-1 DeaDice (1736)

4- Final Round (7-pt):

Kofa (1701) 7-1 Backwoods (1825)

The matches marked with red are those won by pre-match underdogs.

Overal Standings:

1- austin, kofa 17 pts
2- DeaDice    15 pts
3- Backwoods   10 pts
4- silent_greek 8  pts
5- adrian         7 pts
6- Paul_William, FatElvis  5 pts
7- juanz      4 pts
8- wyzzz, socksey, blotsalot, chopos, samirah, nixo, spielberg, PersianLord, Slipshod  3 pts
9-rif_raf, stog, miss_treat   2 pts
10- Kyalia, johnwayne, teyakis, Miccimalou, adz, bifz, Smudger, qizwiz, cowgirl  1 pts


The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests.  - T.K

PersianLord

Monday's Gladiatorial Combats - 3rd round

Number of participants: 4

Matchess played: 3

Favorite victories: 3 (100%)

Underdog victories:0 (0%)

Winner: PersianLord (1812)

Runner-up: rbgood (1551)

1- Semi Final Round (3-pt):

PersianLord (1812) 7-2 spielberg (1645)

rbgood (1551) 3-0 rossa (1446)

2- Final round (7-pt):

PersianLord (1812) 8-0 rbgood (1551)

Overal Standings:

1- austin, kofa 17 pts
2- PersianLord: 16 pts
3- DeaDice: 15 pts
4- Backwoods   10 pts
5- silent_greek 8  pts
6- adrian         7 pts
7- rbgood 6 pts
8- Paul_William, FatElvis  5 pts
9- juanz, spielberg      4 pts
10- wyzzz, socksey, blotsalot, chopos, samirah, nixo,  Slipshod  3 pts
11- rif_raf, stog, miss_treat   2 pts
12- Kyalia, johnwayne, teyakis, Miccimalou, adz, bifz, Smudger, qizwiz, cowgirl , rossa 1 pt
The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests.  - T.K

PersianLord

Our tourney now has an official announcement on FIBS-O-NACCI page:

All is well on the Eastern front.

Monday's Gladiatorial Challenge is now giving away Nacci Points to the winners. 100 points each week to the winners and even bigger prizes to those who win monthly and session titles.

This is a tremendous deal for Nacci players. You shouldn't miss the tournament if you are in FIBS-O-NACCI.


--donzaemon

Ooga Booga!
The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests.  - T.K

PersianLord

#9
Monday's Gladiatorial Combats - 4th round

Number of participants: 12

Matches played: 11

Favorite victories: 4 (36%)

Underdog victories: 7 (64%)

Winner:

Runner-up:

1-Preliminary Round (3-pt) :

ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER (1688) 3-0 r_monk (1709)

stoerchle (1923) 5-0 DeaDice (1741)

silent_greek (1516) 5-0 rif_raf (1465)

itsmeagain (1528) 9-0 stog (1680)

2- 1/4 Final Round (3-pt) :

juanz (1654) 3-2 ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER (1688)

adrian (1699) 4-2 silent_greek (1516)

itsmeagain (1528) 8-1 inim (1760)

MacMom (1541) 4-1 stoerchle (1923)

3- Semi Final Round (3-pt):

juanz (1654) 4-0 adrian (1699)

itsmeagain (1528) 4-2 MacMom (1541)

4- Final Round (7-pt):

juanz (1654) 7-2 itsmeagain (1528)

The matches marked with red are those won by pre-match underdogs.

Overal Standings:

1- juanz 19 pts
2- austin, kofa 17 pts
3- DeaDice, PersianLord 16 pts
4- silent_greek 11 pts
5-Backwood, itsmeagain 10 pts
6- adrian 9 pts
7-rbgood 6 pts
8-FatElvis, Paul_Willliam,
9- spielberg 4 pts
10- blotsalot, stog, chopos, wyzzz, nixo, socksey, rif_raf, samirah, Slipshod, ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER, MacMom, storchle 3pts
11- miss_treat 2 pts
12- adz, johnwayne, bifz, kyalia, Miccimalou, teyakis, Smudger, cowgirl, qizwiz, rossa, r_monk, inim 1 pt
The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests.  - T.K

PersianLord

Overal Winner of the Monday's Gladiatorial Combats in May

juanz
The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests.  - T.K

spielberg

Quote from: PersianLord on May 27, 2008, 07:48:18 AM
Overal Winner of the Monday's Gladiatorial Combats in May

juanz

How many Naccis does juanz win for being the monthly champion Ali?

PersianLord

Quote from: spielberg on May 27, 2008, 11:46:06 AM
How many Naccis does juanz win for being the monthly champion Ali?

He won 300 NACCI pts last night, 100 for winning the weekly title and another 200 pts for gaining the monthly title and his account was credited with that huge amount today. Now he is well positioned to go for the points race in FIBS-O-NACCI. :thumbsup:

Regards
The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests.  - T.K

PersianLord

#13
Monday's Gladiatorial Combats - 5th round

Number of participants: 16

Matches played: 15

Favorite victories: 9 (60%)

Underdog victories: 6 (40%)

Winner: stoerchle

Runner-up: juanz

1- 1/8 Final round (3-pt):

stog (1716.84)        won ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER (1653.36)

blotsalot (1778.82)  won PersianLord (1823.25)

RickrInSF (1725.90)  won Admire (1614.34)

juanz (1680.58)       won  silent_greek (1546.67)

stoerchle (1937.49)  won  Gusssss (1715.62)

Kyalia (1464.81)      won  adrian (1758.97)

DeaDice (1745.33)    won  adz (1478.31)

Miccimalou (1576.36) won  zbilbo (1464.43)

2- 1/4 Final Round (3-pt) :

stog (1716.84)        won blotsalot (1778.82) 

juanz (1680.58)       won RickrInSF (1725.90)

stoerchle (1937.49)  won Kyalia (1464.81)

Miccimalou (1576.36) won DeaDice (1745.33)

3- Semi Final Round (3-pt):

juanz (1680.58)      won stog (1716.84) 

stoerchle (1937.49) won Miccimalou (1576.36)

4- Final Round (7-pt):

stoerchle (1937.49) won juanz (1680.58)

The matches marked with red are those won by pre-match underdogs.




Note: Since TourneyBot was not working properly last night, we decided to run the 5th round with OogaBot. Thus:

1- The ratings are not exactly the same with pre-tourney ones

2- The exact scores of the matches are missing

The NACCI page containing the full bracket and results can be found here:

http://www.donzaemon.com/pyr/user/pyr/index.php?page=showBracket&tourneyid=1212427048



The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests.  - T.K

PersianLord

Overall Standings For June:

1- stoerchle 17 pts

2- juanz 10 pts

3- stog, Miccimalou 5 pts

4- blotsalot, RickrInSF, kyalia, DeaDice 3 pts

5- PersianLord, ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER, Admire, silent_greek, Gusssss, adrian, adz, zbilbo 1 pt



The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests.  - T.K

PersianLord

#15
Abusive behaviour during the 5th round

Unfortunately, we witnessed abusive behaviour from ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER during the last night's MGC tourney. Here I first provide the related documnets and then will probe the issue. Any suggestion and proposal would be greatly appreciated, but please send them via 'private message', either in this forum or in FIBS.

1- Rude comments during the match

As can be seen in the tourney page in NACCI website, ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER had been paired with stog in the 1/8 final round:

http://www.donzaemon.com/pyr/user/pyr/index.php?page=showBracket&tourneyid=1212427048

During their match, ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER behaved in a manner that is truely abusive, rude, unfair and in contradiction with sportmanship codes. Here are the complete chat-logs :

Note: 'You' in the chats is stog.

Quote

You kibitz: Hi! gl from cumbria uk
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: hi again
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: fcfkit bigtime
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: fcking race 21
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says:  twice
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: 32
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: fckinhellish race
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: i hate dicegames
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: fckin sh**
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: always plying thiose fckin lucky guys in tour nament
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: fckit
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says:  stinking fck
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: hope you have gagged me
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: dont listen
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: oh fcking god
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says:  cfckin sh**
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: all those entrys against 5 point bord
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: fckuy fckuyi9u fcjkinnglhywfg,hvvbTREWTRYIUhv64457877####$$R%$YR^&
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: stinking fcking bastard dice
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: you dont deserve a sfcking win
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: zwaai is her e
You tell ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER: Thanks for playing.
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: i mentally collapsed
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says:  but dont drop
You tell ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER: np
You tell ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER: tis a fearful game s'times
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER says: you were a 99%  underdog


As can be seen, ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER was whining about the dice all the time which is enough bad, but rude comments targetting his opponent personally is definitely inexcusable. I have marked these with red.

This gets more frustrating when we analyze the match:

http://www.freewebs.com/persianlord/You_vs_ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER_20080601170845475.mat

A 2-ply analysis of the match shows that not even stog was not that '####ing lucky', but it was actually the very whining ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER himself who enjoyed a greater share of luck during the whole match:

Note: 'You' in the match is stog.

Quote

                                      ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER   You                 
Luck Statistics:
Rolls marked very lucky                 2                    2                 
Rolls marked lucky                      1                    3                 
Rolls unmarked                         88                   84                 
Rolls marked unlucky                    3                    3                 
Rolls marked very unlucky               0                    1                 
Luck rate (total)                     +1.149 (+33.669%)    +1.031 (+51.914%)   
Luck rate (per move)                   +12.2 ( +0.358%)     +11.1 ( +0.558%)   
Luck rating                           None                 None               


The only reason that ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER lost that match is simply the superior play of stog:

QuoteZWAAISTAARTMEESTER   You                 
Overall Statistics:
Error rate (total)                    -1.414 (-45.932%)    -0.803 (-16.599%)   
Error rate (per decision)              -15.7 ( -0.510%)     -12.0 ( -0.248%)   
Equiv. Snowie error rate                -7.6                 -4.3             
Overall rating                        Intermediate         Advanced           
Actual result                          -50.00%              +50.00%           
Luck adjusted result                   -31.75%              +31.75%           
Luck based FIBS rating diff.          -1772.74                                 
Error based abs. FIBS rating          1751.6               1836.1             
Chequerplay errors rating loss         298.4                213.9             
Cube errors rating loss                  0.0                  0.0             


Nonetheless,I would like to provide a position in which stog (red) got a very lucky roll that actually changed the fate of the match:



I admit this is a lucky roll, but should I remind the very unlucky roll for stog in 17th move of the same game which forced him to leave 2 blots during the bear-off ( Position ID: 3dkAhDC+DQAAAA, Match ID: cIluACAAEAAA) ? Or should I remind the very next roll for ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER which enabled him to hit both checkers? (Position ID: vgIAAN3ZAIQwAA, Match ID : MAFlACAAEAAA) 

Luck does play a roll in BG, and everyone get a same share of it in the long run.

2- Delaying moves on purpose:

After that lucky roll from stog which left no hope for recovering, ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER began yet another abusive behaviour: 'delaying moves on purpose', apparantly in a heinous try to revenge. The unfair and deliberate delay was observed by both juanz and blotsalot.

3- Rude shouts

After much delay, ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER resigned, but immediately afterwards began sending rude shouts. In one case, he called MGC a 'RIGGED dice tourney' and went on by being rude against DeaDice, who is the co-TD of MGC:

Quote

ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER shouts: THX==== Persion
L=== tell me please when the next RIGGED
dice tourney is on

DeaDice shouts: Weil Sie ein kleines Baby sind.
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER shouts: deadice feeds
on lice

yeti_yew shouts: :)
Slipshod shouts: my good ness zwai that not so nice
blotsalot shouts: har har,, dea called waste a little baby
yeti_yew shouts: har har mahadev :-))
inim shouts: hello yeti
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER shouts: no nice lice
yeti_yew shouts: hello inim :)
Slipshod shouts: <-----watching inim's inexorable climb
to 1800
inim shouts: i wish i made it, i always bounce
inim shouts: last week i got to 1792, and dropped to
1730 in no time

And again:

Quote

Jean_le_Joueur shouts: Aurevoir Mesdames!
Jean_le_Joueur shouts: This place is getting overcrowded.
s DeaDice shouts: told me once a cubes was bad, breause
his "real" rating was higher, and it was an
insult.
inim shouts: not very old, 30s i think
You shout: heart-attack?
DeaDice shouts: no.
zbilbo shouts: so far i know it was some kind of muscle
dystrophi (sp/name?)
inim shouts: no, he had some rare disease destroying
some vital parts of his body, he was in the
wheelchair already and knew it would come
inim shouts: yes, something like that
You shout: MS
blotsalot shouts: yes ms
You shout: Maybe MS
FlorianGeyer shouts: This place is getting overcrowded.
DeaDice shouts: yes.
zbilbo shouts: same as stephen hawking i guess
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER shouts: deadice says :yes
You shout: My uncle's wife died of exactly the same
####ing disease last month
spudgun shouts: ####ing disease
spudgun shouts: AIDS ?
DeaDice shouts: ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER...be obssesed
with me, and suffer...please....
You shout: It's terrible to know you're going to die
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER shouts: obesed with you
???
krautlover shouts: well, we all know that
krautlover shouts: we just don't know when
inim shouts: anakin kept a good spirit until the end
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER shouts: good heavens
no
You shout: i'd rather die right away
inim shouts: he was very brave i guess
DeaDice shouts: stfu then....
QuoteBot shouts: The trouble with born-again Christians
is that they are an even bigger pain the second
time around. -- Herb Caen
Slipshod shouts: u roll like that aginst me again kraut,
and it will be sooner rather than later
You shout: that takes a strong personality
adrian shouts: DD, I am obsessed.... too!
DeaDice shouts: lol...
DeaDice shouts: for you, adrian, no suffering wished,
you are cool.
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER shouts: deadice contributes
: yes and lol
adrian shouts: :) is that a promise for a date?
Gusssss shouts: strange, DeaD normally wishes for
people to have heart attacks
Gusssss shouts: she must really like you
inim shouts: good article from Zbigniew Brzezinski (former
US national security advisor) and William Odom
(former NSA director) about iran an nukes
inim shouts:
DeaDice shouts: Guessss step up wth his lies...what
is this?...
Gusssss shouts: not lies
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER shouts: lice lice in deadice
Gusssss shouts: you said to me to \"go have a heart
attack\"
Gusssss shouts: you know it
Gusssss shouts: lovely
DeaDice shouts: ok....#######..let's go.......Guesss
sheats....
You shout: inim, you seem to be more capable then
me in posting out-of-content shouts, lol
yeti_yew shouts: :)) ?
Gusssss shouts: ah, pissed again?
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER shouts: deadice feeds
on lice

shabnam shouts: hi yeti :)
yeti_yew shouts: hello shabbo :)
Honeygirl_ll shouts: hi shabbie;-)
DeaDice shouts: no...I won..you tried donz..you whined
to Patti, you are a loser.
yeti_yew shouts: :))
shabnam shouts: Hi HG :-)
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER shouts: deadice talking
about whining
inim shouts: "The widely propagated notion of a suicidal
Iran detonating its very first nuclear weapon
against Israel is more the product of paranoia
or demagogy than of serious strategic calculus.
It cannot be the basis for U.S. policy, and
it should not be for Israel's, either."
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER shouts: thats a joke
krautlover shouts: thanks for the link, inim; that's enough,
though.
inim shouts: :)
You shout: lol
Slipshod shouts: kraut can't handle informatio overload
yeti_yew shouts: ?
adrian shouts: oh well, I like her too Guss. There are
only 2 players on my villain list.... that list can be
improved. Besides those two noone ever told me
that I am a lucky idiot, so the list may stay short.
yeti_yew shouts: hey dude ??
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER shouts: not even me adrian????
adrian shouts: not even you ZW
yeti_yew shouts: bribe me my two blue roses ;-))
inim shouts: and speaking of nukes, this news is a
real hammer:
inim shouts: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/31/nuclear.internationalcrime
inim shouts: switzerland confiscated nuclear blueprints
so hot they had to destroy them not to violate
their NPT membershop
inim shouts: an uncontrolled number of copies floats
the "scene"
Slipshod shouts: the swiss just resondingly voted down
mading it more difficult for foreigners to become
citizens
inim shouts: yes, but they already got a very strict regime,
which will stay intact
yeti_yew shouts: :)
inim shouts: "The blueprints were in digital form and
are believed to have been copied on to the network's
computers in Dubai, the hub for the Khan
operation."
inim shouts: isn't that convenient, PDF howtos
adrian shouts: Fibs joke: RG_S is watching ratebot.
You shout: lol
You shout: Khan operation, inim?
adrian shouts: I have no power, my conn will break
soon. bye bye all
You shout: Thanks adrian for help, good night!
adrian shouts: storm.yvw PL
miss_treat shouts: slip, the foreigners votation was
rejected by over 60%
Slipshod shouts: i know
Slipshod shouts: only one county approved it
inim shouts: khan was involved, as were a number
of others from switzerland, germany, dubai,
pakistan, etc.
inim shouts: but it seems the material leaked more or
less uncontrolledly in PDF form, that is the real new
threat
inim shouts: when we will find it on emule?
Slipshod shouts: dubai yellow brick road
miss_treat shouts: as we know so far, destruction of
docs was asked by cia
Slipshod shouts: where the bombs of society lie
inim shouts: how do you destroy PDF documents which
have already been copied?
You shout: And inim, US army is afraid to attack Iran,
they're afraid of shabnam
You shout: buwahahaa
Slipshod shouts: shabam
adrian shouts: Wohooo, power's back ! (I wonder 4
how long?..)
inim shouts: CIA doesn't even know who exactly has
copies
inim shouts: and dr. khan probably can be found cursing
because he just lost his trade secrets ...
DeaDice shouts: Guesss has expressed that this tourney
is ####ed and run by idiots,
Slipshod shouts: inim, allow me to donate to your 1800
total
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER shouts: lice
inim shouts: wish granted, invite :)
adrian shouts: isn't lice a bug?
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER shouts: rhyms on dice
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER shouts: dea
inim shouts: ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER <-- lice-sense
to roll 5-1
DeaDice shouts: The tornneys are fun to do, and if
you guys cannot enjoy them, please do not enter.
ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER shouts: more lice for tourneys
DeaDice shouts: whatever.....
adrian shouts: It is not fun to award wins, ban players
or resolve good/bad dice related isuues.
Gusssss shouts: ah \"whatever\", the mantra of the
brain-dead
DeaDice shouts: exactly.....adrian...


And the last scene:

Quote

ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER shouts: om==prana=swami=lice
DeaDice shouts: Guesss, I have asked for you to be
banned, per your request.....
Gusssss shouts: ban Guesss
Gusssss shouts: go for it
Gusssss shouts: perhaps you light even learn what
my real nick is
Gusssss shouts: might
Miccimalou shouts: Thanks for hosting
DeaDice shouts: please....you both have made your
points..idiots....
spudgun shouts: hi micci
You shout: Thanks for playing Micci
Miccimalou shouts: hi spuddy
You shout: see you next monday, Micci
blotsalot shouts: thanks for hosting Lord
You shout: Thanks for playing, blottie, see you next
monday
You shout: but hopefully you'll find someone else to
gammon him on 2 cube with 16 moves, lol
yeti_yew shouts: bye all :)
You shout: night yeti
shabnam shouts: bye yeti :)
Miccimalou shouts: bye yeti
DeaDice shouts: blots ia my x teamie...killer.....
Miccimalou shouts: lol
blotsalot shouts: against someone, my Lord, it just wouldn't
be nearly as sweet :)
You shout: lol
ParlorBot shouts: It seems hillux has disappeared. My
estimated odds to win were 98.25%.
You shout:
ParlorBot shouts: Would someone else like to play?
gBOTcasualplayer shouts: This place is getting overcrowded.
Miccimalou shouts: ;-)
spudgun shouts: my hands stink of fish
spudgun shouts: washed them several times
Miccimalou shouts: why spud?
spudgun shouts: been fishing
yeti_yew shouts: :)
Miccimalou shouts: oh l would like to be near you

Verdict

So far it has become obvious that ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER :

- Complained about dice in an infair manner

- Called his opponent a 'fucking lucky guy' and also told him that he doesn't 'deserve a ####ing win'

- Called MGC a 'rigged dice tourney'

- Insulted a co-TD of MGC

Well, if ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER really thinks that our tourney has rigged dice, he simply can avoid playing in it from now on. But insulting players and moderators is really intolerable. Because this was the first instance of abusive behaviour, ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER is not banned from taking part in the next rounds, but I really hope that he will not repeat this unfair behaviour anymore, as he promised. I would like to run MGC even with 4 players but with no abuse than with 16 players with this degree of unfair behaviour.




PS: As many may know, me and ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER were enemies until quite recently when we become friends and actually yesterday we withdrew our mutual complaints. Thus, this is really not a case that I might take revenge of him.

ZWAAISTAARTMEESTER  also chatted with me after the match and confessed that his behaviour was not true and that he gets upset too quickly. This takes a strong personality and I really hope he will act accordingly which he and his opponents deserve.

Regards








The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests.  - T.K

socksey

I would ignore such comments or put opponent on gag.  As long as the match was finished, no heinous crime was committed.   :laugh:

socksey



"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." - Soren Kierkegaard

playBunny

The long version: That would be an automatic ban if I were TD. I run tourneys for the pleasure of my "customers". I don't need people fouling the service that I provide by making it an unpleasant experience for any or all of the others. The subsequent apology could earn a second chance but only after I'd inquired into the nature of the offender's relations with others (which I may have witnessed or had direct experience of). If, as seems the case, the person was known to be unpleasant in other contexts then the apology would be taken with much scepticsm. If they had redeeming features (eg. positive contributions to Fibs or, even better, positive contributions to my Paypal account  :laugh:) then these would be taken into consideration but, without a sufficiency, the plea would be regretfully turned down.

The short version: No assholes!

adrian

QuoteThat would be an automatic ban if I were TD.

I , hereby,  invite you to be a TD for FIBS tourneys! Please! I am sure all the remaining (or better said acting) TD's will help you with the job . Since you do it on PartyGammon, would be easy to do it here too.
Helping people is tricky. Give help to anyone and he will remember it only when he is in need again.

playBunny

There's a playBunny on PartyGammon? Or is it PlayBunny? Maybe they don't make a distinction in capitalisation and if not then, dang!, my name's been nicked. :-( Not that I'm anywhere near exploring what Partygammon's got to offer yet. I'm at too many sites already. ;)

Actually I would be interested in TDing at Fibs but then again I'd also be interested in writing a client, writeing a bot, adding a match archive and all sorts of way too ambitious things! The Bunny part of my name represents a nature that sees me hopping from one thing to another. Dailygammon gets the most out of me, though, I could do more if I wern't such a bunny. ;-)