Game 2, move 3, 4: roadkillbooks 6-3 NEXT, team 1-1 NEXT, rkb 3-1

[playBunny]

Sorry if people missed this, but all this information is neatly put into the screenshot. If you look at the part right under the board, you'll see the players names and their colours! Also, the matchscore, matchlength and pipcounts are all included there. And if you look carefully, you'll see an arrow near the homeboard indicating the colour of the player on turn, and showing the direction of play! 

I don't know about anyone else but that text is just a collection of fuzzy blurs. Could those images be doubled in size? That would make the text readable.

Mind you, I don't care myself as I'm tracking the match in GnuBg on a ginormous board that's the right way round! 

On internet diagrams, some sort of standard seems to have emerged to have the player on turn play clockwise.

There has? Dang, and here's me playing the non-standard way!

[Zorba]

stog the administrator asked me to keep the images as small as possible, with regard to server costs, maintenance etc. so there's a conflict of interest I really wish I could just post HTML directly from GnuBG here... would save a lot of time (and storage). But that introduces security threats. Anyhow, I hope to still find a way to post diagrams without the hassle of having to manually copy all sorts of info, as that grows old quickly with me! Maybe I'll use a different program to create the diagrams, looks like I can't change font sizes in GnuBG and 3D boards don't work either for me.

About direction of play: the influential gammonu.com (formerly known as gammonline.com) has used this format both in OLM, all articles and on the forum; Stick's prolific bgonline.org site uses it, hardyhuebener.de bg site uses it, and many position-to-HTML generators for WWW use it. But obviously, in the end, it's an arbitrary choice.

[diane]

Sorry if people missed this, but all this information is neatly put into the screenshot. If you look at the part right under the board, you'll see the players names and their colours! Also, the matchscore, matchlength and pipcounts are all included there. And if you look carefully, you'll see an arrow near the homeboard indicating the colour of the player on turn, and showing the direction of play! 

okay, she says, polishing her best reading glasses   

[vikingblood80]

Anyhow, I hope to still find a way to post diagrams without the hassle of having to manually copy all sorts of info, as that grows old quickly with me! Maybe I'll use a different program to create the diagrams

May be use GABBI..you can enter the GNU ID's directly there... :

http://www.backgammonaustralia.org/gabbi.php

[stog]

still haven't had that sight test then bunny?[/color]

[socksey]

Sorry if people missed this, but all this information is neatly put into the screenshot. If you look at the part right under the board, you'll see the players names and their colours! Also, the matchscore, matchlength and pipcounts are all included there. And if you look carefully, you'll see an arrow near the homeboard indicating the colour of the player on turn, and showing the direction of play! 

I did not see that info until you pointed it out and then it was so tiny I had to squint to see it.     Anyway, it's good there.   

roadkillbooks asked me earlier in this match if I could post the diagrams for his turn also with his homeboard at the bottom. That requires me to flip sides every time, and unfortunately GnuBG then also switches the colours of the checkers for both players, which can be quite confusing indeed. As rkb suggested, I'll stop doing this from now on.

I have no problem playing in any direction, just so long as I know where my homeboard is.  Wouldn't it be less confusing to keep the board as roadkillbooks wants it so that we all don't have to flipflop our minds with each play?   

socksey



"A New England conscience doesn't keep you from doing anything; it just keeps you from enjoying it" - unknown

[stog]

if it helps zorba - if you could upload the file as a bigger size - blitzxz's diagrams were typically 432x328, but they didn't have detailed text on them.

i like the fact that each officiator for these matches has their own style and modus operandi for administering and preparing the posts.
(i, for example take a screenshot of the board diagram, then crop and upload)

if the size of diagrams is well under 30kb, then all the better as, although we have unlimited server storage, i still maintain a backup here on my home systems, and as such picture files do buildup to a large amount. and so these blue diagrams are great as they are under 20kb.

see what size you can upload zorba , that still remains relatively small in space and will still open on a click and which is readable by most of us.

i reckon you are close if you increase the size to 432x328.

also i wonder where blitzxz got the board design he uses(http://www.fibsboard.com/fibsboard-forum-match-1/match-1-game-1-move-10-factotum-cube-t2370.0.html) which i find gives the best contrast and allows me to see the numbers well.

the numbers and writing on these secondmatch diagrams are a little harder to view because they are white on blue, but i can see the numbers ok on clicking the file.

Remember too that different monitors and graphic cards and OS platforms will affect the different views folks will get -- and more so if your near sight is at all affected, and you are tired

...even if i  attach a screenshot of what i see here with a mac system & dell monitor,  you will still see it on your system with your settings, monitor and through your eyes.

for me here the writing below isn't fuzzy but does require a concentrated look

thx again everyone for your input and work - very interesting games

[socksey]

So, it will always be the forum team at the bottom, playing clockwise with BLUE, and rkb at the top, playing anti-clockwise with WHITE (WHITE).

Just need to have it clear with every board, so that there is no confusion at all.   

socksey



"It's called faith. Faith is believing something that no one in his right mind would believe." - Archie Bunker (Played by Carrol O'Conner)

[Zorba]

Quick and dirty 0-ply ROLLOUT rkb's 3-1 move:

Spoiler

Definitely make the 10pt with the three for a broken 5-prime (6-prime with a gap, as some would say).

Not much in it between 8/7 or 6/5 then, as expected. 8/7 just looks a tiny bit more flexible.


    1. Rollout          13/10 8/7                    Eq.:  +0,4615
        59,74   9,77   0,55 -  40,26   6,78   0,14 CL  +0,2541 CF  +0,4615
      [  0,03   0,03   0,02 -   0,03   0,03   0,01 CL   0,0010 CF   0,0023]
        Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
        31104 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 862504334 and quasi-random dice
        Play: 0-ply cubeful prune [expert]
        Cube: 0-ply cubeful prune [expert]
    2. Rollout          13/10 6/5                    Eq.:  +0,4537 ( -0,0078)
        59,50   9,85   0,59 -  40,50   6,95   0,14 CL  +0,2481 CF  +0,4537
      [  0,03   0,03   0,02 -   0,03   0,03   0,01 CL   0,0010 CF   0,0023]
    3. Rollout          10/7 8/7                     Eq.:  +0,1873 ( -0,2741)
        53,30   9,98   1,33 -  46,70   7,22   0,09 CL  +0,1126 CF  +0,1873
      [  0,47   0,61   0,84 -   0,47   0,35   0,04 CL   0,0133 CF   0,0259]
        Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
        108 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 862504334 and quasi-random dice
        Play: 0-ply cubeful prune [expert]
        Cube: 0-ply cubeful prune [expert]
    4. Rollout          10/9 8/5                     Eq.:  +0,1750 ( -0,2865)
        53,76  10,28   0,42 -  46,24   8,76   0,17 CL  +0,1142 CF  +0,1750
      [  0,50   0,44   0,15 -   0,50   0,35   0,03 CL   0,0136 CF   0,0330]
    5. Rollout          10/6                         Eq.:  +0,1731 ( -0,2884)
        53,73   8,50   0,59 -  46,27   6,80   0,11 CL  +0,1193 CF  +0,1731
      [  0,47   0,58   0,31 -   0,47   0,29   0,05 CL   0,0147 CF   0,0306]
    6. Rollout          10/9 6/3                     Eq.:  +0,1715 ( -0,2900)
        53,27  10,76   0,89 -  46,73   8,88   0,27 CL  +0,1083 CF  +0,1715
      [  0,50   0,49   0,65 -   0,50   0,39   0,05 CL   0,0151 CF   0,0337]
    7. Rollout          10/7 6/5                     Eq.:  +0,1666 ( -0,2949)
        53,51   8,79   0,40 -  46,49   7,33   0,14 CL  +0,1083 CF  +0,1666
      [  0,54   0,51   0,12 -   0,54   0,46   0,02 CL   0,0186 CF   0,0386]

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[playBunny]

I missed these posts before in the flurry of activity.

"Laughter is the shortest thing between two people"--Victor Borge  (I could interject something here but I bite my tongue!)

Just as long as it's your tongue that you bite and not the thing that you could have interjected. 

About direction of play: the influential gammonu.com (formerly known as gammonline.com) has used this format both in OLM, all articles and on the forum; Stick's prolific bgonline.org site uses it, hardyhuebener.de bg site uses it, and many position-to-HTML generators for WWW use it. But obviously, in the end, it's an arbitrary choice.

Ahah, thanks Zorba, that's three very decent endorsements.

still haven't had that sight test then bunny?[/color]

I had it last week actually. The new specs are ready to be picked up!

[stog]

good luck

[diane]

good luck

[Zorba]

 

lol
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lollollollollollollol

[playBunny]

I don't get it. What's funny about a bunny collecting new specs? 

[diane]

I don't get it. What's funny about a bunny collecting new specs? 

no idea