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Cube in a 1 point game and other strange incidents

Started by Caliman, January 26, 2009, 02:38:59 AM

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Caliman

January 26, 2009, 02:38:59 AM
 :blink: how was it my opponent managed to use the cube in a 1 point game ? I cant see how the cube could be in use, but there it was double or resign!
Also ive had instances whereby my opponent  is able to reject my cube yet carry on the match? This seems it should not be possible but it has happened. Can anyone please explain why?
Rickochet on Fibs. Converted from mobile odesys to 3d fibs on pc.

PersianLord

#1
January 26, 2009, 07:03:34 AM
Quote from: Caliman on January 26, 2009, 02:38:59 AM
:blink: how was it my opponent managed to use the cube in a 1 point game ? I cant see how the cube could be in use, but there it was double or resign!
Also ive had instances whereby my opponent  is able to reject my cube yet carry on the match? This seems it should not be possible but it has happened. Can anyone please explain why?

The first case is possible, the second not.

I think you should study the command 'Toggle Crawford' to see how can you avoid being cubed in 1-pt/DMP matches.

Regards
The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests.  - T.K

spielberg

#2
January 26, 2009, 09:49:54 AM
The cube's always in play in 1 point matches. Think about it Ali - how can a 1 point or DMP match be a Crawford one? Very, very few are stupid enough to refuse a cube in a 1 point match but it's worth trying!

Caliman

#3
January 26, 2009, 05:56:40 PM
:unhappy: ah it is obviously just Odesys clients such as myself that cannot cube in a 1 point game. I have also had instances of my opponent offering to cube at say 2-6 or 2-4 in a 7 and 5 point match respectively? I cannot do this either?
As for the second issue, my opponent definately rejected my cube and continued to play the game to my frustration! This has only happened once, although some shrewd players seem to be able to get out of accepting/rejecting a cube by leaving the game then resuming and the cube has disappeared ?! Hmmm can computer players manipulate the system to their advantage against Odesys clients?
Due to my rapidly increasing addiction to fibs I MUST get a pc online asap! Its like riding in the baggage carriage on the orient express.
Rickochet on Fibs. Converted from mobile odesys to 3d fibs on pc.

PersianLord

#4
January 26, 2009, 11:19:19 PM
Quote from: spielberg on January 26, 2009, 09:49:54 AM
The cube's always in play in 1 point matches. Think about it Ali - how can a 1 point or DMP match be a Crawford one? Very, very few are stupid enough to refuse a cube in a 1 point match but it's worth trying!

I have tried it with success.
The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests.  - T.K

Caliman

#5
February 20, 2009, 02:28:47 PM Last Edit: February 20, 2009, 02:34:04 PM by Caliman
 :ohmy:
During a 1 point match last night the screen froze for both my opponent and myself. We agreed to leave and resume, when doing so the match had restarted and it was a 3 pointer? We had almost finished the 1 pointer and had to start from scratch in a 3 pointer ? ! Go on tell me its the server lol
I understand the intricacies of the cube much more now thanks to dik(buckoFibsa) Thx dik! Learning all the time, almost every match teaches me something and makes me a better player , Muahahaha beware! Lol
Rickochet on Fibs. Converted from mobile odesys to 3d fibs on pc.

diane

#6
February 20, 2009, 02:45:45 PM
Quote from: Caliman on January 26, 2009, 05:56:40 PM
As for the second issue, my opponent definately rejected my cube and continued to play the game to my frustration! This has only happened once, although some shrewd players seem to be able to get out of accepting/rejecting a cube by leaving the game then resuming and the cube has disappeared ?! Hmmm can computer players manipulate the system to their advantage against Odesys clients?
Due to my rapidly increasing addiction to fibs I MUST get a pc online asap! Its like riding in the baggage carriage on the orient express.

lol, love the analagy  :cool:

My best guess as to this cube is that it is your mobile client again, if you sent the 'cube' command to fibs, but your client sent the 'roll' command too, then it *might* appear that he rejected and you carried on playing - especially considering you wouldn't see the server error message telling you that you must cube before you roll. 

I think you will find it a very different experience when you get to using the PC regularly.  ;)
Never give up on the things that make you smile

socksey

#7
February 20, 2009, 02:57:17 PM Last Edit: February 28, 2009, 04:11:45 AM by socksey
Quotelol, love the analagy 

:lol:  I was just commenting on how I thought you would love this, diane, when I got a message saying someone had posted something that I might want to read before I made my post.   :lol:


QuoteDuring a 1 point match last night the screen froze for both my opponent and myself. We agreed to leave and resume, when doing so the match had restarted and it was a 3 pointer?

This may have happened because someone invited to a 3 point match instead of to a "resume" which happens often.  Be careful what invite you accept without noticing.  If a new invite with the same person is accepted, it overrides the saved game and a new match is started.  Some clients warn when this is happening.  Good luck with getting off the phone client and on with a more suitable pc or Mac, Caliman!   ;)

Oh, and cubing in a 1 ptr or when the cube is already to game is considered good luck by some and by some it's considered a trick maneuver thinking the opponent might not accept by mistake.  :)

socksey



"I had rather do and not promise than promise and not do." - Arthur Warwick

Caliman

#8
February 27, 2009, 03:41:50 PM
 :ohmy:
Yet again Ive come across this 'avoiding the cube' issue : at 1-1 in a 3 point match I offered the cube , my opponent just carried on (had no chance of winning; it was cube bullying I admit) So after his next move I cubed again, guess what? He managed to reject the cube and carry on playing again! Grrrr no idea what client they were using but im sure it must be that? Correct me if im wrong pls and if it is the client , which one allows you to do this? I will install that one lol very handy 'cheat' tool hmmm not that I would cheat its impossible anyway is it not? Well no if you can reject the cube and carry on regardless !
Rickochet on Fibs. Converted from mobile odesys to 3d fibs on pc.

diane

#9
February 27, 2009, 04:37:03 PM
I still think this is your cube not registering at the fibs server - for whatever reason - before your dice roll.

So either you have autoroll toggled on, or something similar. 

Did you see server messages? Like waitfors and similar?  If you dont - you wont easily be able to tell what is happening, you need to see those messages when it happens.

But I can tell you one thing for sure....this never, ever happens when you log in from a  PC  ;)
Never give up on the things that make you smile

Caliman

#10
February 27, 2009, 11:09:46 PM
 :blink: no no no! None of those, I did read your reply after this happened last time Diane lol
I cubed (pressed nothing else, no autodouble etc)
My opponent rejected and carried on merrily away so on my next turn I obviously cubed again, same thing happened. I even called him a cheat and got a smiley as a reply! I won the match eventually anyway, I was just wondering how they managed to reject the cube yet continue to play?! Is this possible with some clients? Well yes lol its happened twice now. Could be a bit of tinkering with their software maybe? I wouldnt know, you may as well talk chinese to me as talk source code etc.  Accept or reject(resign) when offered cube is standard procedure I thought? but  Then I am a beginner
Rickochet on Fibs. Converted from mobile odesys to 3d fibs on pc.

diane

#11
February 28, 2009, 12:02:30 AM
I think it is a poor show to call your opponent a cheat in this circumstance, if he really rejected your cube and carried on playing, it would be a failing of the server, not at all his doing.  If you only got a smiley in return, I would think he didnt know what you were talking about, and was humouring you  :dry:

Did you read the server message at the time this happened?  You should have got a message to say that your opponent rejected your cube - if he did, you would get that message..if that message did not come to you then he DID NOT reject your cube, and something else is going on...

Think about it, if you cube - it is your turn....if he rejects, it goes to the next game, if he accepts you carry on with the cube showing 2, and it is your roll....so, if what you are describing really happened, he would reject, the game would continue and you would need to roll....

So try this, next time they reject and the game continues, dont roll the dice...cube again...if you cant do that, then what you are describing isn't happening. 

Then tell us exactly what does happen, and maybe we can help...   :)
Never give up on the things that make you smile

Caliman

#12
March 01, 2009, 07:45:21 PM
 :ohmy:
Well Here goes;
I cubed , no message just game continued. I cubed again and same thing happened.
My opponent was goading me when i asked how they managed to avoid the accept/resign as i said with smileys and lol ha ha ha etc.
I won the match anyway so no drama , just wondered how some ppl can bypass the cube? I do not have auto roll or any auto features, it was pretty simple. I cubed they managed to play on without resigning or accepting (twice) and it has happened in a match before as mentioned above.
Be online with full client soon as my street is linked up to fibre optic connection (50mb ? Believe it when i see it)
Thanks for advice Diane but im pretty sure there is some tinkering of software involved? A one off np but 3 times too much for coincidence.
Rickochet on Fibs. Converted from mobile odesys to 3d fibs on pc.

socksey

#13
March 02, 2009, 02:13:25 PM
Perhaps the next time you are in this situation, if you ask a third party to watch, they might shed some light onto the happening.   :)

socksey



"We should take care not to make 'intellect' our god; it has, of course, powerful muscles, but no personality." - Albert Einstein

adrian

#14
March 02, 2009, 05:19:41 PM
Quote from: Caliman on March 01, 2009, 07:45:21 PM
:ohmy:
..im pretty sure there is some tinkering of software involved? A one off np but 3 times too much for coincidence.


That simply means this: IPhone software sucks, Odesys even more. I will not comment about the peolpe who actually are convinced they cannot live without having a IPhone to show off with  :lol: It's preety close to: big , powerfull black jeep = small dick.
Helping people is tricky. Give help to anyone and he will remember it only when he is in need again.

Caliman

#15
March 02, 2009, 08:41:23 PM
Quote from: adrian on March 02, 2009, 05:19:41 PM
That simply means this: IPhone software sucks, Odesys even more. :lol: convinced they cannot live without having a IPhone to show off with  :lol: It's preety close to: big , powerfull black jeep = small dick.
Hmmm you are great at encouraging people to play on fibs regardless of the client they use adrian, well done! Personally I would rather buy a laptop than an i-phone (same price almost) and in my country i-phones are locked to one network (which is probably the worst network)
Using your analogy I would think i have er maybe a vw campervan split screen, so what?
As its said its not what you got its how you use it lol my phone is fine for now.
Try some constructive criticism maybe?
All bow down to the pc elite of fibs, praise be to the untouchables looking down upon us from their throne of ether.
Sapere aude mr adrian sapere aude.
Rickochet on Fibs. Converted from mobile odesys to 3d fibs on pc.

diane

#16
March 02, 2009, 10:08:09 PM
Quote from: Caliman on March 02, 2009, 08:41:23 PM
All bow down to the pc elite of fibs, praise be to the untouchables looking down upon us from their throne of ether.

Not so much of ether, but of the ability to cube when we want to  ;)

We are only telling you that the software you are using is poor, not that you are second rate - the good stuff is open to all who can lay their hands on a computer.

If you are playing from a crippled interface, then accept it, and all its foibles - and whine not about what you can't do  ;)
Never give up on the things that make you smile

Caliman

#17
March 02, 2009, 10:31:43 PM
 :cool: who is whining? I am well aware of the limitations of Odesys, i thought this was a place to ask questions etc about your experience of fibs? That i do.
And encourage users with inferior software/hardware to get a full client or if they do not have the means : a link to a mobile fibs interface that at least gives access to repbot, watch matches etc etc.
I try to be constructive with my posts but there is always someone to point out i am only a phoney player not yet a member of the hierachy.
Support the new players who may have come across fibs on their mobile instead of putting them down. Seems im wasting my time here: going over the same old ground- oh how we found , the same old fears , wish you were here - Pink Floyd
Rickochet on Fibs. Converted from mobile odesys to 3d fibs on pc.

socksey

#18
March 03, 2009, 03:56:40 PM
Don't take this as criticism, sweetie!   ;)   :wub:

QuoteWe are only telling you that the software you are using is poor, not that you are second rate - the good stuff is open to all who can lay their hands on a computer.

Some of us behave badly on Fibs and fibsboard, when we would not think of behaving like that live.   :laugh:

We are trying to help, so listen to the good stuff and let the other roll off.   :yes:

Hope you have your computer soon so we can celebrate!   :veryhappy:

socksey



On with the dance! Let joy be unconfined: 
No sleep 'til morn, when Youth and Pleasure meet 
To chase the glowing hours with flying feet! -  Byron

adrian

#19
March 03, 2009, 05:00:27 PM
As far as I remember, I just said that IPhoneBGonline and Odesys software both suck. Why, because we haven't received any report like this from any other users who play on FIBS using other software. I also remember I didn't commented , I just merely stated a fact.  You picked up the stone.., the not-guilty one,  as there is a joke about that (sorry bout my poor english): Jesus once saw a bunch of people gathered , as they were about to throw rocks to a human lying down in the streed. He ran and shielded the poor fellow with his body shouting: The one who never sinned shall throw first. Next second a rock hit Jesus . As he recovered and looked into who tossed the rock, he mumbled:mother, please.. you made your point, now let me do my job and stop throwing rocks at me. :rollbaby:
Helping people is tricky. Give help to anyone and he will remember it only when he is in need again.
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