Constructive?

[Kari_Grandi]

Webbie, you call vics posts constructive in mini's thread? I call many of those as flames!
And you dont act??

[webrunner]

Kari, Vic is expressing his opinion with good intentions, although he could be a bit more subtle ... but then again... that is who he is........
Could you tell me what opinion whas expressed in this thread with the A**hole poll, to wich you are obviously referring, or what the intentions and goals of this thread where other then flaming?

In my opinion this poll was started to declare someone A**hole of the month, and more specifically a flame and kick to Vic. It is an unfair poll because it was obvious that at least two people where already voting on Vic, giving him a "head start".

Also please be aware that there is a difference to starting a topic and responding to one. The topic starter sets the tone and subject of a topic.

If there is some other meaning to this topic, please explain, otherwise stop acting like school children on this board!

Also i would like to add that your post should have been a personal message to me, the way moderators normally communicate (ask socksey). Since you brought it out in to the open i will post my opinions about this here.

Although i regard you as one of the important and straight people on Fibs, i am seriously thinking of removing your moderation status because you are obviously having difficulties in remaining impartial.

Just my 2 cents.. feel free to comment everybody!

[Kari_Grandi]

Kari, Vic is expressing his opinion with good intentions, although he could be a bit more subtle ... but then again... that is who he is........

omg, you seriously think so? I wont bother to search earlier threads where you were thinking very seriously about the language and against flames here.

In my opinion this poll was started to declare someone A**hole of the month, and more specifically a flame and kick to Vic. It is an unfair poll because it was obvious that at least two people where already voting on Vic, giving him a "head start".

yes, youre right about that polls purpose, to declare somebody an A-hole of the month!
If that poll was suppose to be directed against vic, why I and gogo are in it??
About unfair, and "head start". You should know better, that in voting generally some candidate may get a "head start" and still lose. Get my point?

Also please be aware that there is a difference to starting a topic and responding to one. The topic starter sets the tone and subject of a topic.

I'm referring to vics crusade against minis etc., was that suitable thread for you?

If there is some other meaning to this topic, please explain, otherwise stop acting like school children on this board!

There is one and only meaning with this topic and you probably already understood it. Keep your moderation style as it was in early days, so then there is no need for us kids to fight

Also i would like to add that your post should have been a personal message to me, the way moderators normally communicate (ask socksey). Since you brought it out in to the open i will post my opinions about this here.

I tried to chat with socksey last night in fibs but she chose to ignore me.
Your opinions are surely welcome.

Although i regard you as one of the important and straight people on Fibs, i am seriously thinking of removing your moderation status because you are obviously having difficulties in remaining impartial.

hehe, you must be joking. But somehow you are right, I'm very straight and dont talk bs too much. Somehow vic got to me and his posts and shouts made me react like this. Btw, he has an honour to be a first player in 'Fridays3' 18 months long history, who is banned from it.

Feel free to do what you like.

Yours sincerely
Kari (strict TD) Grandi

[vegas_vic]

Let me jump in here .

kari is right Web, after i was ridiculed about my opionion just one tourney length, and attacked on fibs that i was doing this as a peronal vendetta gainst socksey , gogogiz and Kari ,
i found laughable.  

All i can see on Kari's part is whenever an issue comes up with me and he is in the position to make a call . Every time its been Vic you are just a a pain in the arse , and if you dont play i will award the match to the other side.

One example was with Sam, just so everyone is on same page , i was playing sam in karis firday tourney , i cubed sam and in kibitz with soky and cheeta watching her , she typed in "kibitz resign? " i typed back HUH?
no one said a word  it was like a frozen time in space , so i asked the TD Kari to come and take a look. i did not accuse sam of cheating or asking should she resign. at that time didnt know her.

Kari came in and without asking anything said vic you dont move your checkers you are out of this tourney. that was it i played and i won.

Since sam and i have talked and played and she told me Vic i am sorry i had a new interface and i didnt know how to resign. i took that at face value.

But what i wont take is any moderator or any TD that is suppose to be neutral, THAT IS NOT!!

THAT IS MY BEEF WITH KARI.

i do not flame people i have a very good reason as to why i would do something to tweak them. as playing tourney_boy in your firday or mini matches,
i had not said a word as tourney_boy or as vic all i did was join a tourney that you banned me.

i think that is when i went to the adolf Kari  hilter rant ,  some could say its childish, and others woudl see the same thread as soup's. where as in You Kari act like you cant do wrong and you are above it all.
like disminsing the 2pt thread i forgot what you had said lets all forget this thread and move on .

Do me a favor one day Kari and google 2away 2away games and see how much discussion is there about it . you might be suprised at the amout .


ill do it in caps now .
its my opinion that 2pt match length are nothing but BULL !!

that doesnt mean it should not be played, all i wanted that a friend saw my point of view and had nothing to do with it. But she refused to see my side and is running them.

When anyone cant have a opinion in here then you might as well close it.

KARI YOU CAN PUT ME ON ANY A..HOLE POLL YOU LIKE , WONT MAKE ME ONE IN THE EYES OF MY FRIENDS IN FIBS .

BUT SURE AS HELL MIGHT MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE THE INTOLERANT PERSON YOU SEEM TO BE.

[vegas_vic]

Let me ADD one more thing Kari , i don't knwo who you are as a person or do i really care .

When i say something i do it because you are in the position of TD or moderator , as i have done with  socksey and gogogiz.

I do not attack a person personally until i am attacked and you have attacked me personally.

And i did tell you in tell  sorry about the adolf comments but you piss me off .
you asked from me to say sorry in this forum and i wont .

because you are WRONG

[vegas_vic]

Kari let me tell you to grow up and stop lying .

You and gogogiz came together to start the A,,, H--- of the month poll and put your names in there along with mine , Since my beef is with you and gogogiz and socksey on how you TD and how you moderate .


One: My views were well known about gogogiz , asking for socksey to play his nick in a tournement that diane  to her cerdit said no to gogogiz. i find it offensive for a td to even ask this of another TD.

Two: i found socksey taking sides on the london issue of lost board where she was 6.000 miles away and going on hersay , to be wrong . She took sides , i told her and posted  on fibsboard she is the moderator and she should let others fight this battle that she was not there to be taking sides .

Three: my beef with you is very clear i find you unflexible and partisan , you have chosen sides and many issues and many people . and when i saw you treatment of a poor newbie by mistake runing a tourney same time as yours , you berated the poor fellow for doing so . Nothing pisses me more then people like you think you own any slot of time on fibs or for that matter anything to do with fibs . If you dont like it go try many other sites like gamesgrid or IBA tourney they have set times and rules , GET IT THRU YOUR HEAD FIBS IS A FREE FORUM. THAT IS ITS BEAUTY.



Just think about the postions all you three hold and how you go about your business in FIBS>

I will repeat it for the 100th time i was not attacking socksey or gogogiz or you Kari .

i attack your none partial behavior in FIBS .

and if you didnt have the position you hold i am sure i would not even say a word to as i dont say a word to so many that mouth off in fibs . Its their right to say anything long as Patti lets it go.


You are a lier to suggest that the As h---- poll was not directed at me . YOU know Kari at least i come up front in your face and say what i belive and feel and not hide.


And as far as gogogiz goes you are not even worth for me to respond to in here or anywhere , i find you a repulsive and weak person that cant fight his own battles and has socksey fight them for you . you make me ill


sincerely Vic .

[webrunner]

Now, this has gone far enough.
I suggest you fight this out in email, msn, on the phone, on FIBS or wherever, BUT NOT HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am  SICK OF IT and so are a lot of others.
Go have your fight somewhere else, this is not that pace.

I am closing this thread................