Here I am making one more comment on this subject.     After a conversation with sixtie this morning, and being more thoroughly confused, I went to Challonge.com to set up another tourney and found this regarding seeding methods as defined by them:

Traditional (recommended)
Pair players using traditional seeding rules. Top seeds are paired with lower seeds in the 1st round. Also, top seeds will not meet up with each other until later rounds.

Sequential
Pairings are made by going straight down the list of participants. First round matches are filled in top to bottom, then qualifying matches (if applicable).

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Now clear on Traditional, I take this to mean what it says, and I am back to my original opinion before dorbel succeeded in changing it.  Sorry, dorbel.     My tourneys remain sequential/random.

socksey



"A man is insensible to the relish of prosperity until he has tasted adversity." - Rosalind Russell born in 1907

The Challonge supports two different seedings, actually three, those 2 and manually set.

TourneyBot supports the following:

Random
Rating Highest is #1 Seed
Registration Order
Experience Highest is #1 Seed
Name (I think A is Highest and Z is Lowest)
Custom set by ALLOW command (ALLOW for Top Seeds, random for the rest)

And at Donz's suggestion it also supports REVERSE RATING, Lowest Rating is #1 Seed

I would like to echo Sixtie's common goal of encouraging participation.
He and I talk at length from time to time about ways to encourage it.

I am working very hard on features and improvements to make tourney play on fibs
seamless for players and painless for TDs.

Fear Not some of this redundant head butting is helping to bring out some good ideas
for new features!

tom

I shall vote for no seeding. Seeding in FIBS is pointless to me. A tourney in which seeding based on rating is implemented gives a less chance for the weaker players to win the trophy and this is not fun.

PL

what a hoot, i.e. this is hilarious

but like the old huckster said to his protege -- son, any publicity, even bad publicity, is good publicity .. toward that end, this dialog is definitely increasing the awareness of issues surrounding tournaments at FIBS .. toward that end, the sinister scheming and plotting of ol' sixtie, moi, seems to be increasing participation in tournaments at FIBS .. as a minority one, i couldn't be happier

God forbid we might actually have new players and new TD's with new ideas to enliven FIBS once staid old tournament structure, or should i say absence of structure .. when i first started playing in tourneys at FIBS a few years ago (2006 or 2007, i don't remember at the moment), there were essentially three weekly tournaments: BagOlymics, twice a week at 4 AM my time, socksey's Mini Matches, and F3's -- four actual chances to play in tourneys a week!

never realizing this was a Holy Trinity, i created the Bloody Mary on Sundays .. but now, i am beginning to feel like Martin Luther posting lists on the door of the cathedral suggesting that players and TD's have the right to choose any type of tourney they like, any time they like

i can't speak for Martin Luther, but i certainly don't expect or demand anyone to do things my way .. however, i will create lists, look at new and different ideas, and write about them ad nauseum,  as long as i am able .. but not once have i ever suggested or demanded that anyone should do it my way or not do it at all

despite continued lip service to our only meaningful tournament standard, that a TD may run a tourney anyway he or she chooses, there sure seems to be a strong demand for conformity .. if only for the sake of fair and random, those are false gods, IMHO .. as the young huckster, Martin Luther, said to the Pope, Father, what a crock, i.e. an old fashioned cooking vessel filled with sh!t

i'd say more and shall, much more, but i am way too busy and enjoying the surge in awareness, interest, and participation in FIBS tournaments .. thanks to all, other TD's and players, for the feedback and support in accomplishing those goals