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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2006, 09:39:17 PM »

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Uh, what I am complaining about is that you smear my good name and you give me no avenue to correct it.
One more thing - by now you are probably using repbot here and there - or at least having a look.  Check my reputation (tell repbot a diane) - be prepared it goes on for a few pages, but at the very top you will see I have recieved some complaints - mostly from people who have dropped me, I complain and they complain in retaliation.  I dont blame repbot for that, or its creators, hosts, or other uses - the people who do that are pillocks, nothing more.  Things is - their complaints have no effect because of all the vouches I have picked up along the way - by not dropping and generally getting along with folk.  Thats all it takes - and demonstrates very definately that  
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Apparently, there is no way to correct my reputation. This is strange, because even felons, after serving their jail sentence and acting in good behavior, have a chance for parole. But I guess I have none.
is not true.  And I would have been a good one to win around btw - I hand out vouches pretty readily to non droppers and good sports - and with all the experience I have gained, my vouch is worth quite a lot  Cheesy  
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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2006, 08:45:45 AM »

diane brings up an interesting point here, and the real weakness of RepBot.

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Check my reputation (tell repbot a diane) - be prepared it goes on for a few pages, but at the very top you will see I have recieved some complaints - mostly from people who have dropped me, I complain and they complain in retaliation.

If you look at my reputation AND diane's, you will find both that I have a positive reputation, AND that I have a complaint from diane.  You will also find that I don't use RepBot.  No vouches or complaints from me about anybody.  What's going on here?

At one time I had a higher reputation on RepBot than anyone, so Biggles set out to actively acquire the highest reputation on RepBot.  This spelled the doom of an otherwise excellent bot.  We now have a sycophantic device with a single objective fact, the number of saved matches.  The rest is at best, "I'll vouch for you, if you'll vouch for me."  It's a friends circle, in this context, and has little to do with whether or not a player will complete a match.  It's a clicque-popularity index.

The worst is when some users on FIBS gang up on a new user to "10K" the new user.  For amusement, these FIBSters hit a new user with RepBot complaints.  The max is, for those with 10,000 exp. on FIBS, worth 10K RepBot demerits, hence the term, "10K".  I repeat, RepBot is an excellent idea, perhaps flawed in in its conception, definitely abused.  The result of this 10K abuse of RepBot is the loss of many new users, potentially valuable FIBSters.  diane does not address the effect of such abuse on new users.

THAT is how abuse of RepBot can affect users, diane:  New users, those who think RepBot is some official part of FIBS, instead of an abused, good idea, turned into a popularity contest and a weapon.  If you look at my complainers on RepBot, you will find nobody with whom I've ever dropped a match (in fact you will find users who invited me and dropped me for their amusement); if you examine the names, you will find multi-IDs complaining about me, and if you examine the ISPs, you will find more.  Why?  I don't dare say here, fearing censorship.   I play, I complete matches, and I dare to disagree.

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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2006, 01:24:59 PM »

All been said before.   -_-   *ho hum*

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« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2006, 02:05:08 PM »

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At one time I had a higher reputation on RepBot than anyone, so Biggles set out to actively acquire the highest reputation on RepBot. This spelled the doom of an otherwise excellent bot
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LOL!!!!
So the bot was excellent when you had the highest rep, but then was doomed when someone you dislike obtained a better one.

don, zip up your fly, we don't like this much exposure!
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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2006, 09:54:20 AM »

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Mr. Connell,

If you cannot take advices from women (somehow understandable)
Hehe

you either know diane and all other female goodies on fibs very well or you gonna get killed now...    cool

I like repbot quite a lot personally - which is due to its fuctionality and my use of it (and i didnt experience any "bad behavior" over it from other players)

to check the negative remarks on the basis of who actually did it is a good idea (tx diane  rolleyes )

@ connell - i dont really think somebody wont play with someone just because he has 10 safed games (i sometimes get up to 8 myself) - negative remarks are something much more serious to consider. If you have a high rating with low experience just means (in my eyes) you are a damn good player (therefore i might play with you or not).
If i would have some complaints (thanks god not yet - but im working hard on it  Wink  ) i would rather discuss it with the people who gave it and try to solve that dispute so they delete it.

all the best
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« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2006, 01:01:47 AM »

I wanted to report back, since I have not been here in awhile.  I did not want you to forget how much I hate repbot.

I changed my name and started over again.  This time it took me longer to get to 1700.  So naturally I had much less complaints because there were less sore losers and less people wondering how I got there so fast.  But I did reach 1700 once again.

Now you could say, you aren't suppose to change your name.  And I will say, you are not suppose to slander my good name for no good reason.  I was taking abuse and slander for no reason, so I changed it.

I did get a complaint against me, however.  This guy and I were playing a 5 point match.  I was winning 3-1.  He won a game making the score 3-3.

At the end of the game that he won TYING the match, I said "I am sorry I have to leave for dinner" and I left.

He filed a complained against me because "I should have resigned the whole match."  Now does that make any sense?  For the life of me, I don't know what he is talking about.  The score was 3-3 in a 5 point match and we had not started the next game.  If he is right, there is no point in having saved matches.  Everyone should just resign the whole match when they have to leave.

When I asked him why he did that he said - "well I did it any way, bye."

I am perfectly willing to finish the match.  Of course there is no way for me to protest this complaint or have it adjusted or anything else.  It just sits there.

This is the problem here.  You have morons who file complaints for no reason and there is nothing the accused can do about it.  The FIBS FAQ says that you should not accuse someone of being a dropper unless he has left a game and then refuses to finish it when you ask him to do so.

But repbot morons file complaints for any half baked reason.  If a repbot moron does not like the way someone left or what someone said when he left, the the accuser files a complaint because he "feels" the person who left must be a dropper.  When the repbot moron does this, it is actually the repbot moron that is in violation of the FIBS rules.  You are not suppose to accuse someone of being a dropper unless you asked them to finish and they did not. 

Then of course socksy and Diane will engage in their circular reasoning that because someone gets mad that they have a bad rep on repbot it is proof that repbot must be right!  Could be they are instead mad because repbot is wrong and the accused does not like their good name being slandered and they are upset that it is impossible to do anything to correct it.

Your program is a great deal of effort and produces suspect results.  In my view it actually increases problems.  The worst treatment I have ever received on FIBS is from repbot morons.  I actually view you as a rogue group of violators of the FIBS FAQ because you accuse people of being droppers before there has been a request to continue and it is refused.  Can I file a complaint against all of you with repbot?  You are violating the FIBS rules after all.  I know you keepers of FIBS good conduct must agree that something most be done about violators of the FIBS rules.  So you must punish yourselfs.

I realized why you go through all this effort for suspect results and more fights than if you did not have this thing.   You are like the high school cheerleaders.  It makes you feel superior to make fun of the fat girls.  (I am not a woman by the way - what you do just reminds me of that).  You accomplish NOTHING else.

Good day.

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« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2006, 06:47:05 AM »

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Then of course socksy and Diane will engage in their circular reasoning that because someone gets mad that they have a bad rep on repbot it is proof that repbot must be right!

I think you don't listen very well.  I've never said anything like that.  What I said is that Repbot works for me.  I check the list of who complained and how many saved matches someone has.  Based on my combined knowledge, I decide whether to play someone or not. 

Sounds like you have run into someone with a short fuse and sounds like your own fuse isn't too long either.  Perhaps you could have been more courteous when leaving.  Give yourself some time.  Lighten up.  People with bad reps don't seem to have a problem finding matches.  It's not that big a deal.

Hate Repbot if you want.  That's OK.

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« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2006, 12:02:50 AM »

donnell and con should vouch for each other.
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