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« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2006, 10:54:07 PM »
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Not true Hardy. The saved game lasts for N days. I forget what N is, but its' greater than 30 I think. Anyone remember?
Well, whats "after a match has been played"?

If the meaning is, "there is a saved game in the saved games list", than we should write down the rule this way.

But: What, if the match has been played until completion, but your opponent was rude? Or, you completed a match, have been kind, and still got a complaint?

I have a complaint from fesal. We played once, I can't even remember, who won. But for sure, I was friendly as usual. And I got a complaint. He cant even explain, why he complains, because he does not speak english.

I somehow feel the need, to counter-complain for causeless complaints  :D

I still think, RepBot is useful, even the way it is presently implemented.

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« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2006, 10:54:07 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2006, 11:30:55 PM »
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Not true Hardy. The saved game lasts for N days. I forget what N is, but its' greater than 30 I think. Anyone remember?
Well, whats "after a match has been played"?

If the meaning is, "there is a saved game in the saved games list", than we should write down the rule this way.

But: What, if the match has been played until completion, but your opponent was rude? Or, you completed a match, have been kind, and still got a complaint?

I have a complaint from fesal. We played once, I can't even remember, who won. But for sure, I was friendly as usual. And I got a complaint. He cant even explain, why he complains, because he does not speak english.

I somehow feel the need, to counter-complain for causeless complaints  :D

I still think, RepBot is useful, even the way it is presently implemented.

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Well first, he said he would do 4 only if required. I don't believe it will be.

Assuming it is however, RepBot would need to either detect that a match was started by listening to fibs. It would need to maintain a list of matches started for some expiration period. It would only allow complaints if the match between complainer and complainee was on that list.

Now repbot might not be connected at the time your match is played, or it might somehow miss the match report. Either way, you take a lump, but this shouldn't happen very often.

I would assume this would not apply to vouches, but that seems a tad asymmetric :)

There is still a question with regard to what he meant when he said "played". Is he implying that the match had to NOT have been completed? Not sure.

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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2006, 06:10:36 AM »
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I have a complaint from fesal. We played once, I can't even remember, who won. But for sure, I was friendly as usual. And I got a complaint. He cant even explain, why he complains, because he does not speak english.
 
I wouldnt worry about that - after all fesal complained about himself too.... :wacko:  
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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2006, 01:46:28 PM »
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Not true Hardy. The saved game lasts for N days. I forget what N is, but its' greater than 30 I think. Anyone remember?

I seem to remember 90 days, but not automatic.  Sometimes varies slightly.

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« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2006, 03:08:09 AM »
I would actually cast a pretty strong vote for dumping the database.

At a philosophical level, a vouch now means something entirely different than it did when you created it-- you're not just saying that they're OK, but you're also saying you trust their opinion about who is OK.  The semantic shift suggests to me that a clean database is in order.

If RepBot winds up only accepting vouches/complaints within a relaatively short time of playing a match, then a clean database is mandatory.

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« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2006, 03:55:38 PM »
Why stop with dumping the rep database?

I say dump all the ratings and everybody starts over with 1500. Should be fun!

It will make all the bottomfeeders and manipulators have to work a lot more to get back to those stratospheric ratings. :D  
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« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2006, 04:01:20 PM »
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A great idea!

Dump the ratings and start over! Why stop at resetting to 1500? Why not reset to 1300 or 1000?
I think there is some misunderstanding. The RepBot database with the reputations will be resetted, the ratings would not be affected. They have nothing to do with RepBot.


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« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2006, 06:57:14 PM »
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I say dump all the ratings and everybody starts over with 1500. Should be fun!

Novel idea!   :lol:   That would be FUN!  See all the cheaters scrambling to regain ground!  

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« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2006, 05:57:08 PM »
Hardy:
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I think there is some misunderstanding. The RepBot database with the reputations will be resetted, the ratings would not be affected. They have nothing to do with RepBot.

No misunderstanding Hardy!
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Dorbel :In my opinion this would be a good idea anyway, in fact fibs ratings could also do with resetting to 1500 as well
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myself:Touche Dorbel! Why not, Patti?  .
It will be good to reset all ratings? I say yes.

I must add tho: 1500 + 0.1 rating points for every 1000 points experience if rating is above 1500, and 1500 - 0.1 rating points for every 1000 eperience points if actual rating is below 1500.  This  is fair, in my NOT humble oppinion.  ^_^  
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« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2006, 07:45:03 PM »
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No misunderstanding Hardy!

I must add tho: 1500 + 0.1 rating points for every 1000 points experience if rating is above 1500, and 1500 - 0.1 rating points for every 1000 eperience points if actual rating is below 1500.  This  is fair, in my NOT humble oppinion.  ^_^

Okay, still it was a misunderstanding .... from my side  :huh:

Then I don't like the idea of resetting the ratings. Many people work hard - with fair means - for their rating, including:

- studying backgammon books
- analyzing their matches
- avoiding made mistakes in the future
- learning METs
- etc. etc.

Those players who use unfair means to get a high rating will continue to do so in future. The way to avoid those people ist not te reset all players to "zero", but to kick those lousy creatures out of FIBS.

A rating should reflect the strength of a player. Resetting it is like communism. It just doesn't work.

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« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2006, 10:52:31 AM »
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A rating should reflect the strength of a player. Resetting it is like communism. It just doesn't work.

Holy sh**, POLITICS in fibs ?!

If that is holds true, then my play of backgammon is like communism too: it doesn't work either!   :blink:  B)  :blink:

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« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2006, 11:47:55 PM »
So we're down to the final hour, literally (at least UTC), and I haven't noticed any changes.
Is it dead yet then? Or will it linger and leave a stench?

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