as part of this debate i thought i would paste an exchange i have had with burper wherin he suggests an excellent way forward
burper's message thread re repbot & savedgames lis
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Quote from: stog on November 28, 2008, 12:57:59 AM
hi there
how did you find the new server - is it fast enough i wonder?
i think this location is very good - it will be hard to match it..
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Works well, thanks for picking up hosting duties.
Do you have the capability to run scripts on the server? E.g. could you run a script that does a grab and store of fibs.com/savedgames each day?
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« Sent to: burper on: November 29, 2008, 06:52:47 PM »
yeah..possibly - do you mean a cgi perl script?
as u know hosting companies get nervous about scripts
but we could always have a go -- so long as it didn't interfere with the cgi's i have running at the moment (they're a pig to sort out! and i'm a scrapyard challenge cutn paste merchant rather than a fluid coder:)
let me know what you want to try and if i have the time ill give it a go
its perl 5.2 on a linux server
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« Sent to: stog on: December 05, 2008, 12:42:15 AM »
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I was thinking of a cron job, i.e. not triggered via web access like cgi, that would grab a copy of
http://fibs.com/savedgames/list.html each "day" and store it.
I believe there is valuable data to be mined from it, but the mining is where the complication comes in. The first step is having the data.
E.g. I can picture a different sort of "repbot" that only keeps positive information. Everyone starts at 0. If a stog/burper match shows up on the savedgames list one day, but is gone the next, then we can be *almost* sure that stog and burper played a match and finished. If we count 10 of these rising/falling patterns, then we can *almost* be sure they approve of each other as opponents, and might even recommend each other to others.
All sorts of other things can be interpreted from the data, but that is the simplest and most direct thing I can think of.
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« Sent to: burper on: Today (15/12/08) at 07:07:07 PM »
hi there
we are still on eric's dutch server, but if we switch i shall be putting the board on its own host so we will be able to try stuff, if and when, Patti reinstates the savedgames list.
she might if we have a constructive/useful way of dealing with the info.. and i like your idea - it would give people a guide ...
speak to you later -- will post this on moderator's page for eric to see
regards stog