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« on: September 15, 2004, 10:55:48 AM »
Hi

What's happened with RepBot?  :huh: It isn't active since 3 days. Does there exists a RepBot-administrator, who cares?  

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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2004, 10:57:34 AM »
Avik hosts repbot - I dont know why it is down - he is normally quite quick at getting it back online - so I assume he is away.

I will send an email or two - and see if it hurries things along.
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2004, 11:01:20 AM »
thx Diane

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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2004, 11:37:58 AM »
Yeah, I miss Repbot too  :unsure:  
Check my new website: www.vrouwenpower.nl

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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2004, 06:14:02 PM »
It's like the "old" days on Fibs!  Thx, again to burper for creating RepBot in the first place and thx to Avik for continuing to maintain RepBot.  We really appreciate it although we tend to take it for granted.   :rolleyes:

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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2004, 10:31:17 PM »
I've build an additional feature into my NiceRollerBot. You can ask NRB for the unfinished games of a person:

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tell NiceRollerBot ask <name>

To get the reputation of RepBot isn't possible. And, sorry, the feature is only available, if NiceRollerBot is up and running.
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2004, 11:27:25 PM »
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I've build an additional feature into my NiceRollerBot. You can ask NRB for the unfinished games of a person:

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tell NiceRollerBot ask <name>

To get the reputation of RepBot isn't possible. And, sorry, the feature is only available, if NiceRollerBot is up and running.
That bot is getting better all the time :)
 
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2004, 02:16:29 PM »
Hi Rolf!

Great!! :D
Now i have a Backup when RepBot is down.
BTW You made a great Job with NRB
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2004, 06:02:54 AM »
RepBot, in its original concept, was an interesting and useful tool.  Kudos to burper for introducing it.  Unfortunately, it's design also laid it open to abuse and manipulation.  I've seen jerks use RepBot to drive new users away from FIBS.  What a laugh those jerks had!  And of course we all know, or should know, about the sale of RepBot vouches.  In this sense, RepBot has been abused by at least one of the greatest abusers of the FIBS ratings system.  And there is the clicque behavior.

The only objective, and therefore most useful, feature of RepBot is its list of the number of a user's saved matches.  This info is available elsewhere, but RepBot is convenient.  Other than that, I won't be sorry if RepBot never returns, since some of the worst users of FIBS have figured out how to turn it from an objective tool to a weapon of abusive manipulation.

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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2004, 12:04:26 PM »
Although i am aware of the occasional misuse of Repbot, i do think it is a useful bot. The reputation is a good indicator of the person's history with other players . The people who have manipulated their rep are well known and thus i ignore their "good"rep.

I mos Repbot a lot as i play with 3DFibs. One of the best  features of this client is it's repbot integration. And now, that is not working anymore :(
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2004, 01:09:26 AM »
I found this in my inbox tonight when I got home, I dont know if it is out of date now - but thought I would share it anyway.

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Yes, RepBot is down, probably due to a power failure at my home.

Unforunately I am out of the country and am unable to correct the
situation. I'll return in about a week. I'm truly sorry for the
inconvenience.

Thanks for that Avik.

(this was sent to me on the 16th, so we can expect repbot back around thursday/friday from the sounds of this mail)
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2004, 08:15:18 AM »
Does anyone else have a copy of the repbot code?
I could function as a backup.
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2004, 09:32:19 AM »
Webby, I have a question about those "well known" manipulators you ignore:  Do you object when they use RepBot as a weapon against new users or do you only care that they post here and massage your ego?

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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2004, 09:49:05 AM »
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Does anyone else have a copy of the repbot code?
I could function as a backup.
I was wondering that myself - rather like we have with the tourneybots. For things we simply cannot live without  ;), it makes sense to have copies on different systems.  Repbot, I expect, is better run singly (ie one logged in at a time), but if there were other copies around - another could be brought online if problems occurred.
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2004, 12:11:24 PM »
What about that, burper?  Have any copies laying about?   :rolleyes:

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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2004, 01:03:19 PM »
The code is open source and easily found, but its' the database that is useful.
Best to wait a week.

If anyone has any bright ideas about distributing RepBot (including its' data), feel free to discuss them at fibscommunity.org.

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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2004, 01:07:33 PM »
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Webby, I have a question about those "well known" manipulators you ignore:  Do you object when they use RepBot as a weapon against new users or do you only care that they post here and massage your ego?

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This well known manipulator is probably doing the newbies a favor, if your allegation is true. It saves them time and a lot of frustration. We all know that thin-skinned people don't do very well on fibs, with this sort of flaming being allowed.

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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2004, 03:08:48 PM »
I think everytime repbot goes down I have a new level of appreciation for burper.

I am reduced to only playing people I know because the droppers come out in full force.  It is boring!

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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2004, 05:16:12 PM »
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The code is open source and easily found, but its' the database that is useful.
 
I wonder if  'skeleton' bot - which doesn't accept vouches/complaints, but that quotes saved games, is still better than nothing in an emergency.  Rather like NRB is doing at the moment when online. It could be set with a short message explaining what is happening etc too - to stop those endless questions  ;)
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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2004, 08:28:58 PM »
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Hi burper,

I happen to be renting a dedicated server (www.schneiderp.de). uptime is now 129 days. We could install a copy of repbot and the database on it, establish a data replication scheme (daily would be enough?) and a watchdog that checks somehow each minute whether the primary repbot is online. If not, the replacement repbot jumps in. As soon as the primary server comes back up, it can just log in; the backup repbot would automatically get disconnected by fibs ("warning: you are already logged in"). Does that sound feasible?

The watchdog could actually be a program (based on your Java FIBS lib?) that logs in as "repbot_watchdog" or whatever and just asks a whois, quits and returns a status.

One could probably extend that concept to a couple of distributed symmetrical repbot installations that each log in as watchdog in regular intervals like n minutes (n being the number of known installations) and check before they log in as repbot.

We can discuss details by mail.

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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2004, 11:05:53 PM »
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The code is open source and easily found, but its' the database that is useful.
Best to wait a week.

If anyone has any bright ideas about distributing RepBot (including its' data), feel free to discuss them at fibscommunity.org.
What is wrong with this forum?  ;)
Anyway, i have some room left on my botserver for backup or back backup.
Just let me know if you need access to it.
 
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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2004, 01:52:46 AM »
Personally I'd like repbot to provide details of saved matches, including  dates, opps and scores. I have learned to ignore the reputation part. Could repbot (or another bot) be programmed to inflict automatic losses on serial droppers? A simple algorithm that ensures fairness is not hard to devise. I guess the problem is to get the server to record the loss, given that passwords are not available and there is no access to server source code.

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« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2004, 02:46:48 AM »
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The code is open source and easily found, but its' the database that is useful.
Best to wait a week.

If anyone has any bright ideas about distributing RepBot (including its' data), feel free to discuss them at fibscommunity.org.
What is wrong with this forum?  ;)
 
It's not on the server where the source code is.
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« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2004, 03:33:36 AM »
How does one use RepBot to "drive out newbies"?
How many newbies have been driven out by this process?
Why is the normally verbose don reluctant to reveal the details of all this and just who is in these shadowy cliques?
How do you choose a clique and who do you apply to for membership?
Would these cliques have it in their power to apply this mysterious RepBot drive out process to don and give all us jerks a laugh?
These are important questions, will we get any answers?

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« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2004, 08:36:10 AM »
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Would these cliques have it in their power to apply this mysterious RepBot drive out process to don and give all us jerks a laugh?
 
Now there is an idea !!! :D  
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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2004, 11:05:18 AM »
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Would these cliques have it in their power to apply this mysterious RepBot drive out process to don and give all us jerks a laugh?
 
Now there is an idea !!! :D
Now, I so wanted to say that - but didnt want to fall foul of any rules!!  ;)

I'm game... :D  
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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2004, 12:24:47 PM »
"Jerks"? What jerks?

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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2004, 12:39:14 PM »
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I've seen jerks use RepBot to drive new users away from FIBS.  What a laugh those jerks had!
These ones I think....  ;)

Count me amongst em  :D  
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2004, 03:01:27 PM »
dorbel the wise, the all-knowing and all-seeing.  You are truly a master of fibs and I bow to your superor intelect and knowledge in seeking to use repbot for a higher purpose as previously stated.

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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2004, 04:14:33 PM »
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Membership to the lewscannon clique is currently available for a limited time. Men will be charged $20 and women are admitted free providing they display a certain 'friendliness' to the clique leader. On Thursdays, we will go newbie hunting. I am currently looking for a compound in some deserted wilderness area to establish a base camp. As I don't get around much, I believe Central Park in NYC will have to do.

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« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2004, 04:34:29 PM »
In the absense of repbot this has to be a preliminary offer. However with an exp of 15,000 or so my votes on reps are reasonably weighty. If any would care to make me an offer of real ratings for -15k to targets rep all offers would be seriously (deeply) considered. Plus vouches would (of course) also be available (probably at a lower "price" per vouch - people would , I'm sure "pay" more to be mean than to be nice!)

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« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2004, 04:28:32 AM »
You're right.  It's on the blink.  And I can't wait to start complaining again!   ;)

I've been looking for someone to whom to send an e-mail, but I've not found an address.  Hopefully someone's attention will be attracted here it'll be restored to functionality.  In which case, thanks in advance.     :kiss:  

 

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« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2004, 08:44:59 AM »
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You're right.  It's on the blink.  And I can't wait to start complaining again!   ;)

I've been looking for someone to whom to send an e-mail, but I've not found an address.  Hopefully someone's attention will be attracted here it'll be restored to functionality.  In which case, thanks in advance.     :kiss:
Did you read this from the beginning??  Email has been sent - answer received - repbot should be back today or tomorrow!!
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