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Backgammon => Fibsboard Forum Matches => FFM2 => Topic started by: Zorba on July 24, 2009, 11:27:44 AM

Title: Game 3, move 8, roadkillbooks 4-2
Post by: Zorba on July 24, 2009, 11:27:44 AM
The Forum pointed on rkb with 7/1* 6/1, he rolls 4-2 from the bar:

M85gwCKMZ/CAQQ:MAGqACAAAAAA
Title: Re: Game 3, move 8, roadkillbooks 4-2
Post by: ah_clem on July 24, 2009, 01:31:12 PM
The best defense is a good offense:

Bar/21 3/1*

Don't be a wimp.  Go for it.  You know you want to.
Title: Re: Game 3, move 8, roadkillbooks 4-2
Post by: diane on July 24, 2009, 07:42:29 PM
Quote from: ah_clem on July 24, 2009, 01:31:12 PM
The best defense is a good offense:

Bar/21 3/1*

Don't be a wimp.  Go for it.  You know you want to.

:lol:  :lol:

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Personally I would go for something a bit less exciting  ;) Bar-21, 6-4  :laugh: :laugh:
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Title: Re: Game 3, move 8, roadkillbooks 4-2
Post by: roadkillbooks on July 25, 2009, 05:57:19 AM
Sorry Im currently traveling and Im not spending each waking hour in front of the computer.
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I only see 2 possible things to do.  I would hit with 3/1 but since you made your one point I won't...it mess with my backback game.  I want to enter on the 4 point.  I see no reason to be cramped back on the 23 point.  So now I look for the best 2.  Both 13/11 and 6/4 unstack.  13/11 brings down a builder and if forum hits with a direct 6 I can pull them off the anchor.  In this situation however the bait play is a huge loser because all sevens and 6-4 also hit.  Anyway we have been exchanging hits so it's probally best.  Ill probally get hit again..maybe twice..yuck...hold up ..hit twice sucks let me look at the board again..
ok no biggie.if I can pull it out and make the 4 point Ill be in real good shape.

bar/21, 6/4..final answer
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Title: Re: Game 3, move 8, roadkillbooks 4-2
Post by: Zorba on July 25, 2009, 02:13:27 PM
Thanks and no problem, your reply is still quick I'd say. Have a good trip, roadkillbooks!  B)
Title: Re: Game 3, move 8, roadkillbooks 4-2
Post by: diane on July 25, 2009, 06:48:25 PM
Indeed, enjoy your trip - and we shall see you when we see you  ;)
Title: Re: Game 3, move 8, roadkillbooks 4-2
Post by: Zorba on July 26, 2009, 05:52:29 PM
Quick'n'dirty rollout:

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No surprises here, 6/4* best by a distance.

   1. Rollout          bar/21 6/4*                  Eq.:  -0,1019
       50,10  13,48   1,21 -  49,90  14,58   0,29 CL  -0,0648 CF  -0,1019
     [  0,21   0,26   0,17 -   0,21   0,18   0,04 CL   0,0063 CF   0,0134]
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   2. Rollout          bar/21 13/11                 Eq.:  -0,1995 ( -0,0977)
       47,97  13,13   1,57 -  52,03  15,96   0,36 CL  -0,1293 CF  -0,1995
     [  0,20   0,24   0,24 -   0,20   0,19   0,06 CL   0,0059 CF   0,0132]
   3. Rollout          bar/23 6/2                   Eq.:  -0,2239 ( -0,1221)
       46,72  12,86   1,25 -  53,28  15,08   0,23 CL  -0,1474 CF  -0,2239
     [  0,21   0,28   0,22 -   0,21   0,17   0,05 CL   0,0064 CF   0,0132]
   4. Rollout          bar/23 13/9                  Eq.:  -0,3215 ( -0,2196)
       45,45  11,62   0,76 -  54,55  16,16   0,46 CL  -0,2078 CF  -0,3215
     [  0,40   0,54   0,83 -   0,40   0,38   0,16 CL   0,0136 CF   0,0286]
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