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Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: soky on August 10, 2004, 10:13:52 PM
Triple_X proved his skills with a 11 ptr against deuce (thanks to you deuce).

I attached the mat file. (thanks to inim)
Gnubg on grandmaster level  says:

Match statistics

Player                          deuce                   Triple_X

Chequerplay statistics

Total moves                     222                     219
Unforced moves                  199                     193
Unmarked moves                    0                       0
Moves marked good               188                     174
Moves marked doubtful            14                      16
Moves marked bad                 10                      18
Moves marked very bad            10                      11
Error rate (total)              -5.328 (-46.756%)       -6.662 (-72.212%)
Error rate (per move)             -27 ( -0.235%)          -35 ( -0.374%)
Chequerplay rating              Beginner                Beginner


Luck statistics

Rolls marked very lucky           3                       5
Rolls marked lucky               14                      10
Rolls unmarked                  200                     196
Rolls marked unlucky              5                       6
Rolls marked very unlucky         0                       2
Luck rate (total)               +2.808 (+27.215%)       +2.197 ( +7.212%)
Luck rate (per move)              +13 ( +0.123%)          +10 ( +0.033%)
Luck rating                     None                    None


Cube statistics

Total cube decisions            175                     156
Close or actual cube decisions  109                      61
Doubles                           4                       7
Takes                             4                       1
Passes                            3                       3
Missed doubles (below CP)         8 (-0.620 ( -6.853%))  13 (-0.675 (-16.864%))
Missed doubles (above CP)         7 (-0.457 ( -7.614%))   8 (-0.512 ( -2.645%))
Wrong doubles (below DP)          2 (-0.353 ( -2.879%))   2 (-0.654 ( -4.175%))
Wrong doubles (above TG)          1 (-0.089 ( -1.541%))   3 (-0.982 ( -6.786%))
Wrong takes                       1 (-0.049 ( -0.240%))   0
Wrong passes                      0                       1 (-0.896 ( -4.522%))
Error rate (total)              -1.568 (-19.128%)       -3.718 (-34.992%)
Error rate (per cube decision)    -14 ( -0.175%)          -61 ( -0.574%)
Cube decision rating            Intermediate            Awful!


Overall statistics

Error rate (total)              -6.896 (-65.884%)       -10.381 (-107.204%)
Error rate (per decision)         -22 ( -0.214%)          -41 ( -0.422%)
Equiv. Snowie error rate          -16                     -24
Overall rating                  Casual player           Awful!
Actual result                    +50.00%                 -50.00%
Luck adjusted result             +30.00%                 -30.00%
Luck based FIBS rating diff.    +363.01
Error based abs. FIBS rating    1740.6                  1616.5
Chequerplay errors rating loss   297.7                   383.8
Cube errors rating loss           11.7                    49.7


Output generated Wed Aug 11 00:53:41 2004
by GNU Backgammon 0.14.3-dev 1.1616 040627 (Text Export version 1.66)

So in english: gnubg estimates deuce beeing a 1740.6 player and Triple_X a 1616.5 player.
no further comment ...
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Biggles on August 10, 2004, 10:44:05 PM
Wow, playing with all those famous Dutch world class players for a self-proclaimed 30 years has really improved Triple_X's game.

ROFL       :lol:

Biggles
(the Most Popular Fibster)
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 10, 2004, 10:59:31 PM
I think deuce needs carrying round the room again  :D

just out of curiosity - was anyone particularly lucky - didnt look like it to me. I have tried downloading and analysing - gnu wont have it - dont know why!  :angry:  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: EddieVedd on August 10, 2004, 11:43:40 PM
Love ur work D :)
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: tucsonAZ on August 11, 2004, 12:10:28 AM
Quote.. I have tried downloading and analysing - gnu wont have it - dont know why..
try cut and paste instead of file->save as, or open the file in a text editor and remove everything (browser comments and html tags) before "11 point match" line
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 11, 2004, 12:53:36 AM
Well ... neither deuce nor me are beginners ... so that should say enough about this "analysis"

Triple_X
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: dorbel on August 11, 2004, 01:11:47 AM
I think the point made by the analysis is that you don't even play well enough to be a beginner! This level of play is as awful as the analysis says it is, utterly braindead.
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 11, 2004, 11:52:11 AM
You're obviously missing the point here, dorbel.
Do you believe everything you read in the paper too ?

It all depends on what criteria GnuBG uses .... imho they stink.
I wonder how many high rated players on FIBS would see their playing labeled as awful/beginner .... think I know what GnuBG says most of the time .. which is of course bs !!

But hell, try telling a bunch of believers that their holy book is a fairytale ....

Another peculiar thing is that no one here of the watchers based their opinion about the match on their own observation ..... :no:
:no:

Triple_X
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: soky on August 11, 2004, 12:17:00 PM
Since my last edit the download of the mat file doesn't work and for some reason I cannot edit my post anymore.
So I add here the (zipped) mat file again.
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 11, 2004, 12:21:02 PM
Ok - I watched the match - it was nothing out of the ordinary, I didnt see any moves I didnt expect to see - with one notable exception.  Namely, the lack of the double from XXX when 9-11 down, the game after the crawford game, especially as the match progressed and you looked like the clear winner with no hope of a gammon.

In terms of luck, deuce seemed to be having a hard time getting anything in the early stages of the match - and then it evened out.

I wanted to analyse myself to confirm what I felt about the match, and will try sokys suggestions later. In the meantime, you are nowhere near the player you claim to be - and the bots do not beat you because they predict the non random dice rolls on fibs.... they beat you because they are an awful lot better than you!!!  :P
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: spielberg on August 11, 2004, 12:30:25 PM
I too watched this match and tho Im grateful for gnubgs expert opinion (and the work involved in generating it ) feel it only confirmed what Id thought already.

If you dont even understand crawford Id love to introduce you to jacoby XXX

PS IMHO any1 who types IMHO is opinionated and unhumble
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Biggles on August 11, 2004, 03:45:11 PM
LOL........

So another newbie has made a splash on FIBS by:

1) Dropping people and using the 'bad connection' excuse.
2) Dropping bots and admitting he gets mad at the incredible 'luck' the bots get.
3) Crowing about playing world class players for '30 years' and how good he is.
4) Being shown gnubg analysis of his matches proving once and for all that he sucks, and blowing it off as GNUBG criteria that 'stinks'.

Another in a long line of jagoffs......you can smell them a mile away.


:lol:

Biggles
(the Most Popular Fibster)
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 11, 2004, 04:58:25 PM
well, Diane, the reason the file of the match had to be sorted out by Soky was that my provider dropped the connection AGAIN ... at that time i was trying to double ... but the interface was dead ... i mistakenly thought we had already stumbled upon that stupid crawford rule ....... and of course that i couldn't double ....... talking about the beforelast game that i was winning ..... wouldn't have much difference, the score would have been 10-10 and deuce would have won the last game.
Difference between 10-11 and 9-11

Just beat soky in two 11 pointers .... 18-0 and 11-8 ..... cos i stink ;-)

That leaves the score sofar in total games after three 11 pointers: 38 for me and 17 for you lot ........ cos I stink ....... whouhahahahahahaaaa *laughing my tale off*


greetz,

Triple_X
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: PortWine on August 11, 2004, 05:10:33 PM
Quote... i mistakenly thought we had already stumbled upon that stupid crawford rule
"stupid crawford rule"?  "gnbug stinks"?

I have not been playing backgammon for 30 years so can someone explain to me which rules are "stupid" and which rules are not?

I obviously need to be educated!

Thanks,

PortWine

PS - This is an amusing thread.
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: EddieVedd on August 11, 2004, 05:49:51 PM
QuotePS - This is an amusing thread.

I'll say  :D

Getting better by the post :)
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 11, 2004, 06:00:19 PM
and in case somebody has doubts about the "grandiose" DHCP change my provider just performed, which is causing all the connection trouble, check out:

http://www.casema.nl/portal/page?_pageid=5...&_schema=PORTAL (http://www.casema.nl/portal/page?_pageid=53,197711&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL)

Just run it through some translation site et voila ....... by all means, don't believe me but do your homework .... for a change



Triple_X

Ye, he of little faith ......  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 11, 2004, 06:25:54 PM
The reason i cant look at the file is other than your connection problem - since soky has managed to analyse it successfully.

Hmmm, this double that gives you such problems - experienced though you are,

Quotewouldn't have much difference, the score would have been 10-10 and deuce would have won the last game.

The only logical conclusion to that statement is that you should have resigned the match in the first game - since you were going to lose anyway.

The reason to double - since you hadnt done it at the start to try for your win - was to prevent what happened from happening, deuce got a good run of high numbers - to your poor rolls and won - it should never have got there.

Anyway - keep on - we are still getting a gliggle from it. :D
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: deuce on August 11, 2004, 06:38:05 PM
I've been reading this thread with great amusement.   Thanks for all the good wishes, folks.

Here's what I see: XXX made a grievous error.  If it is his excuse that he was distracted, or confused, SO MUCH THE WORSE.  A player who claims great skill (at great lengths) surrenders the right to be distracted or confused.  Because that's what makes you lose, hence, not great.

I also saw: refusal to take on players of better rating than I uring the shoutfest that led to my invitation (although I dunno what it is about FIBS, I rate in the upper 1700s everywhere else I play.  Ya think it could be the distractions?) presumably to make hay on the "11 point matches are for the big boys like me" line.  Well, that didn't work out too well.  And it looks a little bit cowardly, too.

I also saw: someone who had lots of opportunities to note the mistake of the missed double, while the game was still young enough for me to have taken a tardy cube.   He failed to do that, showing that he wasn't paying attention, for a good length of time.  For the person who was crowing about the score after every game to claim that he didn't know what the score was strikes me as, well, disingenuous, at best.

I still see: someone who can't admit error.  (Well, we see that all the time in shouts, too).  But this is a first day of class, BG101 lesson.  After the third roll, I messaged zyxtcba the following "No cube at two-away?  This guy's fulla s**t".

As he continues to prove himself, with every post.

I've never seen you before, xxx.   I had no preconception of your skills, or the ill-will that you seem to be intentionally generating (again, that unpleasant characteristic is not rare, here).  But you were being a blowhard, and you got taken down a peg.

Be a man, and own up to it.

That being said, damn, it was fun being carried around the room!  

:lol:  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 11, 2004, 08:41:37 PM
You guys don't seem to want to grasp the essence here ... preferring wisecracks and cheap shots and yapping after the other guy like a bunch of parrots, all under the motto "if I get the laughers on my hand, they might think I am right"...... wrong, you will only convince the feeble of mind or character.

I never had a really great impression about humanity as a whole anyway and i guess at FIBS it's no different than your average cross section of the population, so be it, your loss ........


Triple_X

"Quantity is by no means a garantee for quality"


Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: deuce on August 11, 2004, 09:27:07 PM
We're "not grasping the essence"?

I see.

I shall distill the essence, then, as I see it.  Please, enlighten me about what I'm missing.

You brag about your skill.  You make a bonehead error that belies the claim.

Those to whom you bragged find this amusing.  (A well-timed come-uppance is one of the "essences" of comedy, after all.)

What have I missed, here, that's so "essential"?

May I note that while you don't have a high opinion of humanity, humanity doesn't seem to think that much of you, either.  It's a two-way street.  Karmic, even.

If humanity is so unappealing to you, you might want to re-examine the one common factor in your interaction with humans, namely, your behavior.   Perhaps "humanity" isn't the problem, here.

:stupid3:  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: NIHILIST on August 11, 2004, 10:49:46 PM
Why does the analysis surprise anyone ? Both are FIBSrated in the 1500s, the match and analysis confirm it.

NIHI
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: webrunner on August 11, 2004, 11:05:18 PM
Could someone run this match through snowie ?
That would make a point  :D  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 11, 2004, 11:28:18 PM
What you so conveniently call bragging, deuce, I call stating a mere fact.
I did play these guys, mostly in chouettes of 5/6/7 people, for money, in a bar/restaurant we all frequented, from roughly ten to five years ago.
In total, I play for some 30 yrs now.

And as far as humanity's opinion about me is concerned, you might be very surprised.
Oh yes, and comparing a bunch of yes-men, circling around a few loudmouth's at FIBS
to humanity is a rather megalomanic reflection of the truth, wouldn't you say ?

But then you all loooooooove half-truths ..... right ?!


greetz,

Triple_X

"The rivers of blood are flowing beneath our feet, young man".....
"I have been to hell, you have only read about it

Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 12, 2004, 12:00:56 AM
QuoteWhy does the analysis surprise anyone ? Both are FIBSrated in the 1500s, the match and analysis confirm it.

That was the point...no one was surprised - oddly enough not even xxx, who knew the analysis wouldnt favour him - since it is wrong, and he is a great, but misunderstood player.
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: inim on August 12, 2004, 01:29:49 AM
To back the obvious common opinion with statistics, I tortured my CPU and analyzed all games I ever played against triple_x.  The 82 pt -- played in matches of mostly 11pt --  cover 8.5% of the 960 games triple_x ever did on fibs. Analyis was done using GnuBG 0.14.3 in grandmaster mode with 3ply.



Match    Rating     Rating     Match
Length   Triple_X   inim       Result
11       1661.1     1710.5     11:10
7        1722.3     1478.8     05:09
7        1258.7     1666.7     01:07
11       1654.5     1575.9     11:03
11       1615.8     1668.3     10:13
5        1790.1     1806.4     08:01
5        1557.4     1699.1     01:06
11       1676.8     1680.7     07:11
3        1757.4     1652.2     02:03
11       1542.6     1644.6     05:12


The arithmetic mean of the ratings is triple_x 1623.67 and inim 1658.32. For my part, I'd be happy if my real fibs rating was that high. Nevertheless, the proportions look correct to me, as the real current fibs ratings are triple_x 1564.34 and inim 1628.83. In terms of win/lose, the outcome is triple_x 27pt vs. inim 55pt (counting each game simply to be worth its length in points).

In case anybody wants do more sophisticated analysis, I happily send *.mat and *.sfg files on request. To draw any conclusions from my pile of numbers is left as an exercise to the reader.

inim
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: webrunner on August 12, 2004, 08:44:38 AM
QuoteWhat you so conveniently call bragging, deuce, I call stating a mere fact.
I did play these guys, mostly in chouettes of 5/6/7 people, for money, in a bar/restaurant we all frequented, from roughly ten to five years ago.
In total, I play for some 30 yrs now.

And as far as humanity's opinion about me is concerned, you might be very surprised.
Oh yes, and comparing a bunch of yes-men, circling around a few loudmouth's at FIBS
to humanity is a rather megalomanic reflection of the truth, wouldn't you say ?

But then you all loooooooove half-truths ..... right ?!


greetz,

Triple_X

"The rivers of blood are flowing beneath our feet, young man".....
"I have been to hell, you have only read about it
Can't we play a 15 point match Triple_X?
If you win you are a great player and i will announce that publicly on the front page of this forum. If you lose you will do a humble apology to duece :)

That is the way you like it huh?

:cool:  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 12, 2004, 09:43:24 AM
OOOooohhhh, gauntlets all over the floor now  :D

Do not play that match unless i am around to watch - pleeeeasse - i can then log it in case anyone wants analysis done  :D

But apart from that - just wanna watch!!
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 12, 2004, 01:28:46 PM
QuoteCan't we play a 15 point match Triple_X?
If you win you are a great player and i will announce that publicly on the front page of this forum. If you lose you will do a humble apology to duece :)

That is the way you like it huh?
Finally somebody who has the balls to put his (virtual) money where his mouth is.
I will take you up on your offer, webrunner ...... with a few small, but significant changes to the challenge .... after all, you challenge me, so I get to pick the weapons.

I suggest we play an unlimited match and the winner is he that reaches 100 points first. Also, should the winner win by a margin of 10 or less points, the new goal to reach is 200 points.
Since luck falls both ways, only long stretches of play can unearth a difference between us.

I don't see, however, where deuce comes into this equation, so I'll up the stakes and make the deal even sweeter for all of you vultures ..... if I win, you will publicly announce that you have found your master in me and if you win .... hell, I'll terminate my account and leave FIBS, since you are all so intent on that anyway..... how about  that ?

and yes, that's the way I like it .... ;-)

so all that's left is a matter of practicality, I am available for our "mother of all matches" daily from approx. 15.00 to 05.00 GMT +1 ..... is there a convenient daily period of time within this timeframe for you ?


Triple_X  *polishing the cube in anticipation*



Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 12, 2004, 01:43:10 PM
Question is, Webrunner, do you have the rest of your life to devote to this match until you win it to the satisfaction of XXX ???  :LOL2:  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 12, 2004, 02:37:04 PM
pHear creeping in Diana ??? ..... tsk, tsk, tsk .... how predictably weak !!

and you were all so convinced that I stink ..... what, you think that webrunner's luck won't last for more than 15 points ?

anybody with half a brain would understand that anything less than a long stretch would be completely meaningless and can be brushed aside as an occasional streak of luck.

I thought you all were so doubtfull of my skillz .... a long stretch neutralises both our lucky streaks ....

It's actually like this ... in backgammon terms: Considering the four 11-pointers with soky and deuce I am now ahead in games 46 to 30 and I'm doubling ..... take it or leave it, talk is cheap, reality is truth .... simple enough ?


Triple_X


P.S. Playing a few hours daily could do it in just a few days, a week at the most. So this other "half-truth" of the "rest of his life" is just another propagandistic populistic phrase, induced by pHear .... again !!
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: deuce on August 12, 2004, 02:46:21 PM
I love how people read things into things.

XXX - I don't think anyone has called for you to be "driven" from FIBS.  What folks want is for you to stop being such a pompous windbag.

And speaking of pompous windbags reading things into things: where has anyone expressed "surprise" at the analysis, Nihi?   I read every post (XXX exxxcepted) as expressing that the analysis confirms their conclusions.

Just have to throw the usual gratuitous swipe, doncha.

[insert derogatory epithet, here.  the mods would have deleted it, anyway.]

Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 12, 2004, 03:04:17 PM
QuoteSo this other "half-truth" of the "rest of his life" is just another propagandistic populistic phrase

Actually it is hyperbole.


Quoteanybody with half a brain would understand that anything less than a long stretch would be completely meaningless and can be brushed aside as an occasional streak of luck.

I agree, but better than a 200 pt match would be to, say, compare your ratings, which are the fair representation of how well you have played over the entire experience you have on this server.. What were they again?
Oh yes, and we will mentally factor in the correction for the matches you have dropped because you were particularly unlucky.

QuoteXXX - I don't think anyone has called for you to be "driven" from FIBS. What folks want is for you to stop being such a pompous windbag.

Erm, actually the real objective was - as I recall, to stop him from dropping matches!!  He can be as pompous as he likes, as long as he aint dropping folks when they get a bit too lucky for his liking  :D
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: inim on August 12, 2004, 03:46:13 PM
To help authorities to hunt down the reason for his ill luck, I'd like to ask triple_x to fill in this form  (Official rec.games.backgammon Software Complaint Form (http://www.bkgm.com/rgb/rgb.cgi?view+546)) and submit it to Patti and Marvin. The form was created by Gary Wong of GnuBG fame in 1998.

This hint originally came from a nice Munich girl with broken English (Hi LisaS!). Thus I decided to translate it for her. Here we go in German ...


Offizielles rec.games.backgammon Beschwerdeformular
----------------------------------------------------

Ich möchte mich aufregen und die Welt wissen lassen, daß ein grober
Justizirrtum in Bezug auf folgende Software vorliegt (alle
passenden ankreuzen):

 [ ] FIBS
 [ ] Games Grid
 [ ] Jellyfish
 [ ] Netgammon
 [ ] Snowie
 [ ] TD-Gammon
 [ ] GnuBG
 [ ] sonstige (Namen angeben) ______________________

Der Sachverhalt ist wie folgt (alle passenden ankreuzen).

 [ ] Der Zufallszahlengenerator ist voreingenommen, denn
 
     [ ] er wurde absichtlich vom Autor so programmiert, daß der
         Computer bessere Würfel bekommt um die Illusion eines
         herausragenden Backgammonprogramms zu schafffen;
     
     [ ] er wurde unabsichtlich vom Autor so programmiert, weil
         er/sie zu inkompetent ist einen korrekten Generator zu
         programmieren. Und das trotz der Tatsache, das
         befriedigende Algorithmen für Pseudo-Zufallszahlen-
         generatoren seit Jahrzehnten veröffentlicht sind;
         
  [ ] Eine Verschwörung zwischen dem/den (Namen angeben)      
      __________ Backgammonserver(n) und den Bot-Betreiber(n)
      (Namen angeben) ____________ sorgt dafür, das der/die
      Bot(s) stets bessere Würfel bekommen als ich. (Ich
      bin sicher auch Elvis und die Ermordung von Kennedy
      spielen hier eine Rolle, habe aber noch keine Beweise
      gefunden);

   [ ] Eine Verschwörung zwischen dem/den (Namen angeben)
      ___________ Backgammonserver(n) und den Spielern (Namen
      der Spieler die Sie schlagen angeben) ____________ sorgt
      dafür, daß der/die Bot(s) stets bessere Würfel bekommen
       als ich;

  [ ] Die Software wurde absichtlich so programmiert, um schwächeren
      Spielern hohe Bewertungen zu geben um Sie weiter an den
      Server zu binden;

  [ ] Die Software maximiert meine Duplikation und minimiert seine eigene
      um den Eindruck zu erwecken, daß er "glücklichere" Zahlen
      würfelt. (Das muß Betrug sein, stimmts?);

  [ ] Die Software ist hoffnungslos überteuert. (Ich WEISS das weil
      mein Lehrer in der 8ten Klasse eine Lehrstunde über
      Wirtschaft gemacht hat. Es dreht sich alles um das Gesetz
      von Angebot und noch irgendwas. Der Autor würde viel
      mehr Lizenzen verkaufen und alle Benutzer wären glücklich
      und wir hätten Weltfrieden wenn es billiger wäre. Außerdem
      will ich nicht so viel bezahlen).
      [ ] Außerdem mogelt die Software.

(Nur für Vorwürfe des Betrugs). Ich habe folgende Beweise, daß die
Software betrügt (alle passenden ankreuzen).

 [ ] Ich bin ein sehr guter Spieler, denn ich schlage meine
     Großmutter und meinen kleinen Bruder. Trotzdem gewinnt der
     Computer ständig gegen mich, daher MUSS es Betrug sein.

 [ ] Der Computer hat eine 7-7 gewürfelt und damit meinen 6-Prime
     ÃƒÂ¼bersprungen.

 [ ] Der Computer hat eine unglaubliche 4-3 gewürfelt, obwohl es
     nur 6 Würfe gab die es erlaubt hätten, gleichzeitig seinen
     Prime zu schließen und meinen Blot zu treffen, auf den es
     nur drei Schüsse gab. DANACH habe ich 6-4 und 5-5 gewürfelt
     und zweimal gegen seine 3-Punkt Verteidigung getanzt.
     Es wäre völlig unmöglich, daß so etwas mit echten Würfeln
     passiert, es MUSS also Betrug sein.

 [ ] Die Software hat drei Päsche in Folge beim Hinausziehen
     gewürfelt. Das ist offensichtlich unmöglich und MUSS daher
     Betrug sein.

 [ ] Ich spiele seit (Jahresangeabe) _____ Jahren und habe sowas
     noch nie gesehen. Es MUSS also Betrug sein.

Ich habe meine Anschuldigungen nicht formalisiert, eine
falsifisierbare Hypothese aufgestellt, ein Experiment vorgeschlagen,
Daten als Beweis gesammelt oder vernünftige Schlüsse gezogen weil
(alles passende ankreuzen):

 [ ] ich nicht weiss wie das geht;

 [ ] ich mich mit sowas nicht abgebe;

 [ ] ich bereits SICHER bin Recht zu haben, somit macht die
     Mühe keinen Sinn.

Als Schlußfolgerung verlange ich folgendes (alles passende
ankreuzen):

 [ ] Der Autor veröffentlicht den Quellcode.

 [ ] Der Händler senkt den Preis auf (Betrag angeben)
     EURO _.__ (nur für kommerzielle Software).

 [ ] Ich spiele sowieso mit einer Raubkope, aber auch die betrügt.
     Daher ist sie nichts wert und IRGENDJEMAND schuldet mir
     (Betrag angeben) EURO ____.____,__ (nur für kommerzielle
     Software).

 [ ] Die Software ist kostenlos, daher müssen die Autoren MIR
     (Betrag angeben) EURO ___.___,__ anbieten, damit ich ihre
     @!^$(* betrügerische Software weiter verwende (nur für
     kostenlose Software).

 [ ] Ich erkläre mich zufrieden mit einer pauschalen Abfindung in
     Höhe von EURO ___.___.___,__ für Schäden, die mir durch
     oben erläuterte Beschwerde entstanden sind.

 [ ] Ich möchte nichts weiter als die ewig gleichen Diskussionen
     in rec.games.backgammon neu anzufachen. Ist das außer mir
     noch jemandem aufgefallen?

Unterschrift,
(Pseudonym angeben) __________________

PS: Wie lautet Ihre Kennung für (Software angeben) _________________?
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 12, 2004, 04:21:55 PM
QuoteI agree, but better than a 200 pt match would be to, say, compare your ratings, which are the fair representation of how well you have played over the entire experience you have on this server.
[sn!pped the cheap shots}

Wrong again, Diane, those ratings represent a series of short stretches, most people here don't even want to play anything over 7 points .... therefore a series of short stretches says nothing, except, who wins most of his/hers FIRST games, capice ? It favors only the luck-throwers.

Same goes for those futile 1/3 tourney's .... meaningless, the winner can only say that he/she has won all of his/her FIRST games, again, they favor only the luck-throwers.

Since the cube is half the game (read: knowing when to double based on a tactical insight of the game, recognising situations etc.) it should not be brushed aside to reduce the game to something like say, for instance, playing chess with your last three moves changeable.

I am not even mentioning the fact that nobody here plays for money, resulting in too many doubles just getting accepted because it doesn't cost anybody anything anyway.

I also didn't mention yet the psychological advantages of playing opponents in real life (for money of course) .... seeing their frustration or overconfidence, doubt, fear etc. All these things should be integrated in the moment of using the cube .... that to me is the real game .... and to tell you the truth, I don't see much of it here, here I see a server to please a wide variety of players, in stead of real players.

Your big hero and idol here is NIHILIST, right ? Well, isn't he a professional moneyplayer ? I rest my case .....  

If NIHILIST has a grain of honesty in his body, he should confirm at least that all the other factors, that I have mentioned, are totally not represented in the ratings nor in the programlines of your holier than holy program: GnuBG ........

As far as my dropping is concerned, I think, by now, I have explained and proved that
I AM having connection problems and would further like to add that I don't give a rat's ass what excuse the average newbie here gives ....... not one iota, clear ?

Lastly I would also like to add that I noticed that due to my obvious above-average command of the english language most of you are now inspired by the "pompous windbag" to bend over backwards in attempts to match my eloquentia .... ROFL

Since I am a nice person at heart, I will rough up my english, add a few more typos here and there, so you all won't have to feel the obvious distance anymore, nice or not ?

Bottomline ..... webrunner doubled (challenged) me, I beavered and am now giving it back to him ...... will he take it or fold ?????


as always, yours truely,


Triple_X aka "pompous windbag"

I guess both Robert and me love the smell of napalm in the morning ... it smells like ... like ... imminent victory !





Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: MND on August 12, 2004, 06:02:33 PM
Doesnt this analyses show that they are both stronger in longer matches than their ratings indicate?

By the way NIHILIST and Biggles are not my heroes here and I look forward to see analyses from their matches here.

Regards
MND
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: deuce on August 12, 2004, 06:14:47 PM
Now, I am truly amused.

Dude, we've just met.  I've been on FIBS for nigh on ten years.  And you have the gall, the *vanity* to suggest that I am altering my writing to match yours?  Anyone here will tell you that over the course of my decade of participation on FIBS that clarity of expression, and (something you utterly lack) *style* are my two highest priorities in writing.  I'd have to tie one lobe of my brain behind my back to descend to your level of illiterate incompetence.

Get thee to a Strunk and White Style Manual.  A Grade School Grammer Guide, even.

Look up the following:  Sentence Fragments.  Run-on Sentences.  Subject-Verb Agreement.  Non-standard punctuation.  Errors of each type are on frequent display in your "eloquence".  (Not "eloquatia", ya lunkhead.)   You might also want to compose your screeds in a word processor, because Spell Check is your friend, and the two of you seem to be unacquainted.

Hey, English ain't your first language, but you can make yourself understood.  Bully for you.

But don't brag on yourself about it, as my more southern friends might say.  Makes you look more the fool.

So, in addition to Pompous Windbag
(http://www.njhotair.com/index/montgolfier.jpg)


We can now safely add
(http://www.ceocoachmn.com/Narcissist.jpg)
to your growing list of titles.

Hey, lookie!  I can use the image tags, too!

And in closing, Nihilist, my hero?

It is to laugh.
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 12, 2004, 06:49:43 PM
QuoteWrong again, Diane, those ratings represent a series of short stretches,

Yes, in which the luck swings to and fro - just as it does if you play a longer one - over time and enough matches it evens out.  The only real distortions occur at either end of the spectrum - where the very good players beat their opponents more often - and the very poor players lose more often.  In the middle - the rating is a pretty fair indication.

I wont comment on the language - since English isnt your first language - and therefore any errors are irrelevant.

QuoteSince the cube is half the game (read: knowing when to double based on a tactical insight of the game, recognising situations etc.) it should not be brushed aside to reduce the game

Ohhhh how very true - and laughable in light of the one match I have seen you play!!!

QuoteYour big hero and idol here is NIHILIST, right ?

lol - ask him  :D  (or check both our complaints on repbot  :D )

And finally


QuoteBottomline ..... webrunner doubled (challenged) me, I beavered and am now giving it back to him ...... will he take it or fold ?????

what you came back with was not a sensible proposal - and you know it - so now you essentially can blame him for not accepting the challenge - but kid yourself not - we know who didnt accept a reasonable challenge ( of course this is assuming webbie doesnt want to spend the next few weeks playing your idiot game :P )

And now - I for one am bored of you .....
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: dorbel on August 12, 2004, 06:52:12 PM
As money has now been mentioned, I am ready to deposit a sum of XXX's choosing, between $100 and $1,000, with an agreed third party, to be the stake for a match of say, 25 points? However fibsters, don't hold your breath while waiting for the match to start, there will be some reason why this is not acceptable to the Maestro!
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: deuce on August 12, 2004, 06:55:49 PM
I gladly volunteer to hold the stakes.

Contact me as soon as the match is agreed upon.

D, not holding his breath.

Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 12, 2004, 07:06:56 PM
QuoteAs money has now been mentioned, I am ready to deposit a sum of XXX's choosing, between $100 and $1,000, with an agreed third party, to be the stake for a match of say, 25 points? However fibsters, don't hold your breath while waiting for the match to start, there will be some reason why this is not acceptable to the Maestro!
Ok - suddenly I am interested again!!!

I would volunteer - but I expect XXX wouldnt trust me much now  :D  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: MND on August 12, 2004, 07:25:46 PM
QuoteNow, I am truly amused.

Dude, we've just met.  I've been on FIBS for nigh on ten years.  And you have the gall, the *vanity* to suggest that I am altering my writing to match yours?  Anyone here will tell you that over the course of my decade of participation on FIBS that clarity of expression, and (something you utterly lack) *style* are my two highest priorities in writing.  I'd have to tie one lobe of my brain behind my back to descend to your level of illiterate incompetence.

Get thee to a Strunk and White Style Manual.  A Grade School Grammer Guide, even.

Look up the following:  Sentence Fragments.  Run-on Sentences.  Subject-Verb Agreement.  Non-standard punctuation.  Errors of each type are on frequent display in your "eloquence".  (Not "eloquatia", ya lunkhead.)   You might also want to compose your screeds in a word processor, because Spell Check is your friend, and the two of you seem to be unacquainted.

Hey, English ain't your first language, but you can make yourself understood.  Bully for you.

But don't brag on yourself about it, as my more southern friends might say.  Makes you look more the fool.

So, in addition to Pompous Windbag
(http://www.njhotair.com/index/montgolfier.jpg)


We can now safely add
(http://www.ceocoachmn.com/Narcissist.jpg)
to your growing list of titles.

Hey, lookie!  I can use the image tags, too!

And in closing, Nihilist, my hero?

It is to laugh.
Sorry for any grammar errors.
How should my text look like?
MND
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 12, 2004, 07:34:32 PM
MND - that post was not addressed to you  :D  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: grillbill on August 12, 2004, 09:26:35 PM
I have been away from FIBS for far too long! So distressing that all the interesting things happen when I am on holiday and very little Backgammon in sight. Can't wait to see how this particular discussion develops. If any money is involved I'll hold it.  :yes:  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: webrunner on August 12, 2004, 10:36:11 PM
Well.. obviously the offer is ourtragious and tells us something about the life of Triple-X. He must have a lot of time on his hands.

I on the other hand, I don't have that luxury so i'll have to stick to a max of 25 points. Furthermore i NEVER play unlimited matches. And for your information.. i play 7-15 point matches most of the times.

So.. i don't have a 1000 bucks to spare but i am willing to take up a challange and play a 25 pointer with you.(or 3 15 pointers)
Anyone who wants to bet.. go ahead.

For me.. i don't want you to leave Fibs, i don't even need a public apology or anything. I just want you to apologize to deuce and drop this attitude.. that's all.
I've been here for 10 years and you are underestimating the players and community. And.. if gnubg is such a crap programm.. i would like to see you play 100 matches to one of the bots (they have time enough) and see who will fold then... is that a challange big enough for you? :lol:

Your tactics of raising the stakes and making this extremely hard (too long a game) don't work and i see through them. You prolly hope that i reject it so you can say: see.. webrunner folds, and is a loser. :angry:

I can say the same for you, in fact.. you turned down my challange and chose a safe unlimited match, which won't affect your rating and you know i wouldn't accept because it's absurd length. So..actually you are the one who already folded! :hang:

:LOL2:
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: webrunner on August 12, 2004, 10:44:49 PM
Oh.. and... BTW: Dropping makes you loose instantly when not returned within 5 minutes.
So you better make sure you have a good connection!
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 13, 2004, 01:29:23 AM
Sure, more bullshit on the already huge pile, made up of deliberate misunderstandings, distortions of reality, half-truths or just straight out lies.

Strangely enough, webrunner, you are the only one of this bunch of bottomfeeders that sounds fairly reasonable, I guess, that also had the balls to put his money (virtual, as I recall I described it) where his mouth is.

All of a sudden, my talk of virtual money is twisted into real money, just another example of how everything I say is being turned around, ripped out of context and edited to suit the needs of the rest of the sheep.

Funny enough, when there is mention of money, you come on my domain ...... not really wise

Who I am ? I am a very attractive male with a great body (or so I have heard often ;-)), with an IQ that is probably unmeasurable (considering that such a test would have to be disigned by someone that is more intelligent than me) born in the elite of my country, rich parents, not only heavily networked into the "old boys network" the world over, but also with plenty of connections in what you all might call "the underworld" ... you see, I don't discriminate in what people do for a living, as long as I can get along with him or her fine.
I make love toed hundreds of lookers (not dogs, like most here probably have), lived together with six of them and apart from a small "sidetrip" to the French Foreign Legion, the third elite force in the world, right after Green Barets/Navy Seals and Spetsnaz, I had my first company at the age of 22, not using a cent of my family, 6 more were added in the years to follow until I sold the lot some eight years ago and went into what might be best described as "venture capital", investing in whatever suits me. So yes, I have a lot of time that is my own, because I am my own man.
Envied, respected, loved, feared by those that wronged me, pompous, no, arrogant, yes definately, but hell, everything of value needs to be guarded well in this world. Why do you think there is a battalion (or more) of marines sttioned around Fort Knox ? Exactly !!

You will understand by now that there is nothing average about me and perhaps my mistake was to even try to socialise with the (very) average FIBS-er ?! I also don't believe in false modesty ... I leave that to the hypocrites.

What to do ? I considered upping the stakes again, when real cash was mentioned, but to an amount that would, if lost, would immediately bankrupt FIBS, fun what ? Not really much, $ 100.000 would do it, I guess .... an amount that, when lost by me, as you will by now understand, wouldn't cost me a second of sleep, so that in itself would give me another edge over the poor guy, selected to defend the honour AND solvency of FIBS.

I contemplated having the server DoS-sed every other day or so, very LamE I know ... but fun to sit back and know that all the little mediocre people had lost their nice and cosy virtual livingroom (for lack of a real life) full of all the other mediocre narrowminded folks.

But no, whilst enjoying another Cuelvo Gold, it hit me, simple and cristalclear ...
I shall practive wu-wei, a concept not easily understood by westerners, check out:
http://www.jadedragon.com/archives/june98/tao.html (http://www.jadedragon.com/archives/june98/tao.html)

I shall simply vanish the same way I entered the ranks of players two weeks ago because the best punishment for you bottomdwellers is to condemn you all to eachother, all your little lives, with all your little jobs, little average nagging wives, aal those boring mediocre children, in short, all that sh** you all by now think is normal.
While I simply go back to my incredible but wonderfull life, to all those things that all of your miserable lives lack. Funny what ? Also FIBS never provided the sort of backgammon I was after in the first place.

I would have liked to play with you, webrunner, even for only 25 points, but hee, one of these days, somebody (registered and logged in through perhaps one or two proxy servers) might invite you to a few 11 pointers .... you never know ;-))


have fun now, you hear ... this tiburon is swimming back to deeper waters ...



ciao,


Triple_X

"A visionary is the only true realist"
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: webrunner on August 13, 2004, 01:53:46 AM
This must be the saddest story i have ever heard.
Oliver Twist eat your heart out! :D

I am not really sure that i am glad that you think i sound reasonable.. but thanks anyway.. i think you meant well..

I wish you all the best in your "fantastic"life.. and pray that you will survive whatever the big guy, or faith has waiting for you. However with an attitude like that i doubt that you will. I have lived the life you are claiming you do and i am really glad i am not in your shoes.

What kind of backgammon did you want to play?

If you ever play me at least have the guts to tell me who you are.
And maybe we will meet sometime irl, after all.. you are dutch, like me....
That would be fun.. or wouldn't it?

And a small advice: if you have so much money.. why do you have a crummy wanadoo cable internet account? Get something better ;)

So Long!
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: EddieVedd on August 13, 2004, 02:11:01 AM
Completely entertaining so far thanks  :yes:  lol

Just before you go please understand this statement

Triple_X Posted: Aug 12 2004, 04:21 PM  
QuoteYour big hero and idol here is NIHILIST, right ?

Is WRONG

and let us know why you wont take up dorbel on his perfectly reasonable offer ?


Brillant point webby :)

QuoteAnd a small advice: if you have so much money.. why do you have a crummy wanadoo cable internet account? Get something better

ciao.

PS : Can someone who watches these sort of things have a look and see if this guy is vqs ? :) Just a hunch ......:)

Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: grillbill on August 13, 2004, 02:35:09 AM
I didn't think the French Foreign Legion was an elite force but rather a greatly expendable, if highly trained, one that includes social misfits and fugitives not unlike mrXXX, who are particularly adept and killing Algerians. EVERYONE knows that it's not the third most elite unit in the world. You must be confusing it with your stint in the Salvation Army passing out muffins and meeing lots of powerful "old boys".  :lol:
  Seriously though, thank you for some interesting and literate debate. So infrequent but so refreshing to read. It's discussions and random chat like this that makes me love FIBS so much.  :yes:  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: webrunner on August 13, 2004, 08:20:16 AM
Sorry.. i just remembered i forgot to post a very important smiley in this thread:  :lier:  :shutup:  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: spielberg on August 13, 2004, 08:45:26 AM
Happy to report XXX NOT vqs - not unless he really is an international jet setter flying backwards and  forwards from Holland to the caribbean every week .
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: EddieVedd on August 13, 2004, 12:52:40 PM
lol  :)  No vqs isn't allowed out of his room most of the time, so he's no jet-setter :) thanks , just checking  ;)  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 13, 2004, 12:56:45 PM
QuoteErrors of each type are on frequent display in your "eloquence". (Not "eloquatia", ya lunkhead.)

MND, especially for your information: "eloquentia" is latin for eloquence, me putting that between quotation marks should have enough of a hint for anyone with a clue .... try reading Dante's "In Vulgari Eloquentia" in stead of cartoons for a change ... yes, it's in latin ... if you, like me, are fluent in five languages and get along in two others, then you may exercise some criticism ... not now

So who's the lunkhead/moron now, huh ?

Since this board censors words like f... I will point out the following URL to you:
http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/ (http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/)

while you're at it ... don't forget to read this one there too:
http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/weenies.htm (http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/weenies.htm)

/dev/null

---------

grillbill, especially for your information: Your information about the French Foreign Legion is very outdated, it is now the eliteforce of the French army, still highly regarded in France and by the US army .... in short, by all those who DO have a clue.

Mind you, they still consist of 85% ex-"criminals" and about 15% adventurers, like me.

So, you see, your attempt at an "ad hominum" attack  is not only clueless but also cheap ...

Oh yes, right now they are the only outfit to stand between the refugees in Darfur provence, Sudan and the Janjaweed militia ..... they are stationed in Chad.

http://www.foreignlegionlife.com/ (http://www.foreignlegionlife.com/)


---------

webrunner, especially for your information: Since you claim to have been where I am now, I can only say: "If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen !!"

tot slot ..... geluk en wellicht kruisen onze paden elkaar nog ..... ;-)



greetz,


Triple_X

P.S. I hope that the US-army has the stomach to use the same gas (a fentenyl derivative, was it ?) as the russians used to end that hostage-thing in Moscow, in Najaf to flush out those Al Sadr not a nice persons ...... personally I'd use a nice laser-guided "daisy cutter" on that mosque, you know, the mosque that is soooooo holy, that these militia find it appropriate to hide behind it , just as they do behind women's skirts or even their children. The golden dome is perfect for reflecting lasers ;-)

Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Ramses on August 13, 2004, 01:25:15 PM
Wow this Discussion is great!! ;)
Never met anyone who had so much need to tell the world how great, wealthy, good looking and especially well educated he is.
Please tell me more XXX! :lol:
ROFL
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 13, 2004, 01:43:29 PM
Me too, now i have learned how intelligent (cos it wasnt immediately obvious), how wealthy (again not apparant, considering the dodgy wannado connection) and how handsome he is - i completely regret having picked a fight with him. :D

Erm one more thing, if
Quote"eloquentia" is latin for eloquence

Why did you use "eloquatia", I never did Latin - is there something i should know?
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 13, 2004, 02:03:43 PM
And brave - how could I have forgotten that - oh yes - and the vivid and fertile imagination  :P  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 13, 2004, 03:54:19 PM
Well Diane, glad to see that some 1% of my (carefully chosen) words are finally getting through, you can still camouflage that "altered state" with a sauce of sarcasm, but that's ok, I can see right through that ....

Ok, let's take stock, phase one is coming along nicely .... I got everybody's attention, the high ranking players are finally falling over eachother to challenge me for a nice game of backgammon ..... hmm, I'll bet no newbie ever got that done in such a short time ;-)

Shoot, now I revealed my strategy .... ah well, time for phase two, let's see ...

*thinking*

Maybe it's time for that sizeable donation to FIBS now, perhaps an exclusive shipment of X for the sysops .... maybe even the special mix .... shall we say, the Triple_X, that   cocktail of MDMA with that one special ingredient added, hmm, yes, why not .....

*picking up my @!@$@!!#! smartphone, that thinks it's smarter than me .... *


will contact ya all soon again .... if you're real lucky, that is



Triple_X


P.S. Ever had the feeling that you all were being played with ? Like say, a cat plays with a mouse just before the kill ? ROFL (my furry tale off)
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: PortWine on August 13, 2004, 04:14:34 PM
Triple X is sorta like don, only with a sense of humor and a hint of rationality.  I like this guy!  It is just that right mix of pomposity and false bravado, with just a touch of latin.

Please hang around T_X!

I am still waiting for our match.  I love taking down sh** talkers.  The only thing I worry about is that I was waiting for you and Carolina_Blue to finish a match the other day and the moves were taking forever.  Perhaps you prefer snowie to bgnub?  Just a thought and in no way an accusation, you understand.

PW   :2drunk:  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 13, 2004, 06:35:39 PM
QuoteTriple X is sorta like don, only with a sense of humor and a hint of rationality. I like this guy! It is just that right mix of pomposity and false bravado, with just a touch of latin.

hmm, don't know this don fella but he sounds like a nice guy, without my humor or rationality ..... ahum, not to be too annoying Wineport, but how can something be the RIGHT mix between two WRONG qualities ??? Do they even eachother out ? Enlighten me, please ... ?!

Personally I don't think, but I know, that arrogance based on hot air is intolerable, but arrogance based on a lifetime of achievement is understandable, sometimes even necessary and when overdosed like I serve it, even humourous ..... except of course for morons with no sense of humour whatsoever.


QuoteI like this guy!


Well, thank you, my man, but do you realise that you are in a very small group of FIBBERS, that think that way ? Do you realise that perhaps you've taken your first step to individuality ? Scary, huh ? Don't worry, that will pass ... or perhaps you know, like me, that dead salmons go with the stream and live ones go against it ? ;-))
May I inform you that there is an expression in Dutch ... "het neusje van de zalm", literally translated it means the nose of the salmon ... but in fact it means "the best of the best" ;-))))


QuotePlease hang around T_X!


Well, the jury's still out on that one ...


QuoteI am still waiting for our match


As promised, we will play ... all in good time, my alcoholic friend

"There ya go !!"   *pooring two more tequila shooters*


QuoteI love taking down sh** talkers


EXCUSE ME ?!?!?!  *shooting one of the tequila shooters off the table with the first shot of .45, mumbling something like .... The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away*


QuoteThe only thing I worry about is that I was waiting for you and Carolina_Blue to finish a match the other day and the moves were taking forever


Yep, I think she was trying to bore me off the board, came close to making that remark, but in stead asked her if we could perhaps play a little faster, you see, I'm learning, like the bots, assimilating like a good little Borg ... ;-))

By the way, I tried to upload an appropriate .wav file but the server didn't accept it's format ......I will rename it to .gif and try again ... let's see if I can still fool a bot ;-))


QuotePerhaps you prefer snowie to bgnub


Hmm, heard time and again that snowie is much better but still think that it is next to impossible to catch the luckfactor (a too great factor in this mother of all games called backgammon) in programlines ... or many more additional factors for that matter.
So I'd have too say that I prefer neither over the Borg Central Plexus and Borg memory chips that I was fitted with between my ears at birth ;-))

cheers mate,

Triple_X

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So now that we have the attention of even the DEA, after my mentioning the major export product of my country, MDMA, I would like to say something to those gentlemen and since my words are censored by the board-bot, I shall fool that too by using encryption, don't worry, no Borg encryption codes but a simple one .....

To whom it concerns at the DEA:

Qrne Fvef,

Nf lbh unir abj sbhaq SVOF, V zhfg gryy lbh gung gurer ner ab rkgnpl qrnyref urer, zreryl fjrrg byq ynqvrf, gung yvxr gb cynl fbzr tnzrf, bu, naq bs pbhefr gur jnaanor ceb cynlref gung lbh unir frra zr nqqerffvat va zl ynfg cbfgf. Qba'g jbeel, V unir ab vagragvba jungfbrire gb fuvc nal nzbhagf bs K naljurer be gb nalobql ..... ubjrire, V srry boyvtrq gb shyysvyy zl pvivp qhgl naq vasbez lbh bs zl fhfcvpvbaf nobhg gurfr onpxtnzzba cynlvat fbpnyyrq fjrrg yvggyr byq ynqvrf sebz Sybevqn .... creuncf gurl ner n sebag sbe fbzr urnil pbpnvar fzhttyvat be jung abg ???? Gurl ner cynlvat fb fybj naq jura pbasebagrq jvgu guvf gurl fnl gurl ner ba gur cubar ohg, uryy, gurl zvtug or cynaavat n arkg qehteha ??!!!

Naljnlf, V ubcr gb unir frg lbhe zvaqf ng rnfr naq nyfb ubcr gung gur AFN pbzchgref qvqa'g trg gbb bireybnqrq, qrpelcgvat guvf jryy zrnag zrffntr,

fvapreryl

Gevcyr_K
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 13, 2004, 06:49:18 PM
There ya go ..... rename to .wav  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: deuce on August 16, 2004, 02:03:23 PM
Ok, it's pretty clear we got us a headcase, here.

One who presumes to boast of his command of English, and that Latin is unknown to the others here.

Wrong, so wrong, and so often!

It certainly proves the saying: Non omnes qui habent citharam sunt citharoed.

On a final note, I guess those beautiful women you shag so often really did have good taste.

6 of them kicked you out of their lives.  Wise women, those.  

:lol:  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: deuce on August 16, 2004, 07:47:01 PM
I have decided that there's really only one way to end this, and that is to reveal the truth about myself:

I am a Captain of Industry.  I have hundreds of international patents.  I have made and lost more fortunes than a zebra has stripes.  I am the behind-the-scenes power that controls all events that you foolish groundlings call "business".  I wipe my ass with international treaties, and piss on your "holy" books.

Because I am also the Master of the New World Order.  What you, in your naivte call "politics" is a game that I control for my own amusement, for reasons you cannot begin to comprehend.  "Heads of State" are mere pawns in My Onmipotent Hands.  The Bilderburgs and the Trilateral Commission are my butt boys.  I allow "religion" to florish so that your minds may be further clouded, and that your will be bent to My Whim.

I have perfected a Perpetual Motion Machine.  And rather than help solve the world's energy problems by giving the technology away, I instead take a backdoor  payment, a percentage from every barrel of oil, every liter of petrol that is sold, world-wide, and laugh at your foolishness.

Because I am also Evil.  I have no concern for the people of the world, except for determining how they might best suit My Aims.  

Once, I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.

I have a ten-pound c##k and and a wheelbarrow full of Balls.   I have shagged every model for the Ford Agency, and every Miss Universe contestant, since I was ten.  I was Born Under A Bad Sign.  I cast aside any woman who does not please My Eye, or will not please Me in the most degrading ways imaginable.  Despite this, hundreds of women have hurled themselvs from tall buildings after My rejection, desolate from the knowledge that they would  be forever denied My Precious Seed.

I own everything and everyone.  

Some might call this bragging.  I call it a simple recitation of the facts.

Worship Me.


(http://www.keyway.ca/jpg/mountain.jpg)
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Ramses on August 16, 2004, 09:44:51 PM
Holy Deuce!

You seems to me more powerful than i ever was, even in my best time many, many years ago.
So let me worship you and let me be your servant so i can stand in you powerful light. Maybe i can recover my long lost power this way.

Ramses ;)  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: webrunner on August 16, 2004, 10:12:23 PM
Ind i am the one that created you all.. you are just a fragment of my virtual imagination....  ;) :evil:  :devil:  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 17, 2004, 04:10:48 PM
Triple_X hacked a KH-11 spysatelite to relay the following message from the Borg Queen to you mortals:


rename to ~.mp3


.....................................................................
.....................................................................
............... white noise remaining ........................

Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: deuce on August 17, 2004, 04:27:20 PM
Ramses:  See, that's what happens when you let the embalmers pull your brains out through your nose.  Things just start to slip.  Me, I'll go the cryogenic route, if I must.  But My team of crack physiologists is busy working on making me immortal.  Of course, I'll have to have them all liquidated once they perfect the technique.  Immortality is Mine, alone.

(http://www.beegees.dk/Immortality.jpg)

(I mean, did *anyone* but me buy this?)

Webrunner: Ah, Solipsim.  One of My more devious mind-control creations.  Things are going according to My Nefarious Plan.  Carry on.

Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: lewscannon on August 17, 2004, 04:38:21 PM
Quote

I have a ten-pound c##k and and a wheelbarrow full of Balls.
Your underwear must sag more than csg's
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: burper on August 17, 2004, 05:08:19 PM
Wow, this thread works better than Penthouse Forum!
Many many thanks.
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 17, 2004, 07:12:47 PM
Ah, I see I have been censored again by the bots, removing the recorded and relayed message from the Borg Queen in the earthly popular .mp3 format, no doubt to add to the already existing confusion, you earthlings so seem to like .... well, Borg as I am, I shall immediately adapt and give the exact transcript of her message.

"Brave words. I've heard them before, from thousands of species across thousands of worlds, since long before you were created. But, now they are all Borg"

(to be added to my previous post, relayed through the KH-11 satelite)


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well, deuce, there is a song by Alice Cooper that would make someone with your specific (acted or not, it's roots come from somewhere) psychological make-up flip .. ....... a bit much to upload to the server, but download it yourself from KaZaa, eMule, whatever ...... search for:

Alice Cooper - I Just Wanna Be God.mp3


you'll love it .... as of course I do ;-)))



I must say I bring out the worst AND the best in ya all ... such "eloquentia" on account of little ol' me ........ very well, now let's see if I can stimulate you to accept the Borg adaptations (read improvements) to the very dogmatic standard backgammon rulebook.



greetz,

Triple_X

Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: webrunner on August 17, 2004, 07:47:04 PM
Quote
Alice Cooper - I Just Wanna Be God.mp3


you'll love it .... as of course I do ;-)))

It figures that that is your song because all you will ever be is a wanna be.......   ;)  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 18, 2004, 12:52:04 AM
glad too see that you too are totally "in character" with the rest of the hyenas here, that prefer cheap wisecracks and DON'T do their homework.

IF you would have dowloaded the song and IF you would have listened to the lyrics and IF you had a clue, you might have discovered that Mr. A. Cooper is totally ridiculing people with an ego problem like that ......


Nice little anecdote from last Saturday:

I was playing breadfruit when Socksey announced a 3/5 pts tourney, I tried to register, but was refused cos of my bogus bad rep, I told breadfruit, who was accepted .... a few minutes later, his first opponent snowflakes rudely interrupted our match to check if breadfruit was ready for the first round. Snowflakes, the arrogant f... that repeatedly refused an invitation from me for a match, telling me that I "didn't have the experience to play him". I resigned the match to breadfruit with a backgammon to end it and give him a chance to play snowflakes.
I then coached breadfruit, through chat, to the finals, beating both snowflakes AND socksey ... snowflakes, the "highly experienced player" was a particularly easy target for my little revenge .... breadfruit was playing a backgame with two defencepoints in place, but his tempo was a little high, so that when he would have gotten a shot or two, his innerboard would have been all stacked up on the 1/2/3 point. I therefore told him to play one of his two stones off the midpoint in order for snowflakes to hopefully hit him and thus delay him just enough .... snowflakes prooved to be as greedy as I hoped, hit it and thus lost breadfruit's succesfull backgame after I told breadfruit exactly when to double him. Socksey was pretty much the same story.
I never typed so fast in my life .... ;-)

But by all means, don't believe me, ask breadfruit, do your homework for a change.


After that I went out, had a drink or two or three or more, returned home at approx. 04.30 that night, decided to play one last match, so I invited snowflakes to an 11 pointer. He accepted and I asked him why, after all his earlier refusals, he all of a sudden accepted now ..... he replied (confident of his imminent victory) that he needed the points. I even told him I was pretty boozed up so he'd have an edge ....well, I won that match 12-3 ..... whuhahahahahahahahahaha

I'll bet he didn't tell anyone ......... ROFL

Payback's a b.... aint it ?!




Triple_X




 
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: adrian on August 18, 2004, 05:06:25 PM
No wonder there XXX, Snowflakes will probably loose against me too, if he dares to play.  ^_^ , which I doubt, since there are a LOT of players that believe they are on a high statue pillar, waiting for their names to be written on a plaque beneath. Their choice is made and mine also. So be it.  :P  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: webrunner on August 18, 2004, 08:08:11 PM
I'm sorry but i really can't stand that Alice Cooper crap. It is for has been hippies and wannebe junkies as far as i am concerned...

And ... i have anough homework as it is, in the real world. <_<  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 18, 2004, 09:55:12 PM
Ahem - Alice fan here - seen him a few times!! - But I really hate having something in common with this fool - maybe he just knows the song, and isnt a fan at all!!, yes that must be it.... :D  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: socksey on August 19, 2004, 03:04:25 AM
Quote.... snowflakes prooved to be as greedy as I hoped, hit it and thus lost breadfruit's succesfull backgame after I told breadfruit exactly when to double him. Socksey was pretty much the same story.

Breadfruit, you're banned from my tourneys!  LOL  (Just kidding!)  Bet you and ten Triple_X's wouldn't have beaten me today!

socksey




"Life is just one d**ned thing after another." - Elbert Hubbard
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: lewscannon on August 19, 2004, 02:46:53 PM
QuoteI'm sorry but i really can't stand that Alice Cooper crap. It is for has been hippies and wannebe junkies as far as i am concerned...

And ... i have anough homework as it is, in the real world. <_<
How does one get to be a wannabe junkie?
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 19, 2004, 03:56:11 PM
to aslengyel: hmm ... intriguing nick .... furthermore I think your reply is an intriguing weave of a correct analysis of some players here with a sneer at me mixed in. Chapeau !! Shields at 99 % and holding.

to Webrunner: Well, you may not like this music style, but Alice Cooper has gathered many high quality musicians around him through the years and I guess that when you have been around as long as he has been, you've proved your right to exist in the music business.

to diane: Hmm, that's the first little bit of positivity I hear from you, you ####EDITED BY ADMIN ####  .... about Alice, that is, but still ...... and yes, I'm a fan, don't like all his numbers though, never seen him on stage, but still remember the album I had as a kid, with the paper knickers protecting the vinyl in stead of the normal white paper inner cover. (Billion Dollar Babies ?)
I shall think of you when I play "Poison" later on tonight. Then you can think of me when you put on "Dragontown" ;-))

to socksey: don't blame breadfruit, he was a mere instrument of my little revenge.
Blame me, as everybody here does .... go with the flow, don't give it a thought.
Better yet, register a complaint .... I already have so many, from people I never even played against or chatted with, that one more won't matter. Shields at 98% and holding.

*rerouting additional energy to the shields and calibrating them to a modulating frequency*


Hmm ... strange that nobody here seems to be interested in the (possibly good) Borg improvements to the rigid and dogmatic way the rulebook will have you play and the bots play.
This is not an easy thing to put in writing in just a few lines, working on it, will post it in a few days perhaps. There are several improvements but about one I will give you a hint in the form of a question: Does anyone change their way of playing during an obvious and sustained streak of luck your opponent is having ?
The bots don't ....



Triple_X
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: socksey on August 19, 2004, 05:10:14 PM
Quoteto socksey: don't blame breadfruit, he was a mere instrument of my little revenge.
Blame me, as everybody here does .... go with the flow, don't give it a thought.
Better yet, register a complaint ....

Traditionally, I save my complaints for droppers.  DEATH TO DROPPERS!!!!

I was only kidding breadfruit.  While I think that getting help from others is cheating yourself, I can't stop it and each person must answer to himself on whether his rating is his or someone else's.  I don't care.  I prefer to play it straight for myself.   -_-  

socksey




Mae: "How tall are you ?" ââ,¬â€œ
Man: "Six foot seven inches." ââ,¬â€œ
Mae: "Well, let's forget about the six foot and talk about the seven inches." - Mae West
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 19, 2004, 05:34:04 PM
You complain about droppers, good, me, I get complaints from people that I confront with their dropping and THEY complain about ME !!!

oh, yes ... I know you were kidding, sweetie ......

what do you think, would Mae West have had a bad rep here too ? I think so ;-))



Triple_X

"X marks the spot, f... not, X spots the mark !!" (Xzibit - X)
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 19, 2004, 06:23:53 PM
QuoteThen you can think of me when you put on "Dragontown" ;-))

Actually - reading your stuff puts me in mind of 'from the inside' - maybe you should give that one a little listen - i am sure you will find yourself identifying with some of the characters.  :P  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 19, 2004, 06:48:30 PM
immediately fired up KaZaa lite, downloading it now ...... didn't know that one, will reflect on it as soon as I've zooooomed in on the gist of the lyrics.

did you ever hear of the phrase "armoured amazone" ...... in regard to your psychological make-up ? It's about a woman that ends up very emotionally disappointed in the male sex but still has these "hormonal desires" .... ergo, conflict

BTW, the amazones were a people where females were in charge, keeping males in cages and they were only allowed out of those (emotionally necessary ?) cages for coital purposes, after which they were put back in their cages. Perhaps not very satisfying, but hell, ya can't have it all, right ?

Eary intuition, right ?


Triple_X

"Cynicism is the armour of the vulnerable"






 
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 19, 2004, 07:14:46 PM
lol, listened to it, you couldn't be more wrong .... I'm not one of your partners, stuck on  the inside (in the cage), looking out (waiting for you) ...... you wish

whahahahahaha

BTW, not one of his better songs


Triple_X

"The safest place on this ship is right behind you !!"
(Jordan Tate to Steven Seagal in "Under Siege")
 
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: lewscannon on August 19, 2004, 07:23:45 PM
Actually, the Alice Cooper song that comes to mind here is 'Hey Stoopid'. Either that or 'Halo of Flies'
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 19, 2004, 08:59:32 PM
Did you release one of your slaves to come to your rescue, diane ?

in fact, if you look closely at the picture lewscannon adds to his posts, you can see the little round cage and the trail that this snale left behind ....... ;-)




Triple_X

"Here's the MP-5K, when that red dot is on the target, what you see is what you get"
"I told you I don't like guns !"
"I know, neither do I"

(Steven Seagal to Jordan Tate in "Under Siege")

Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: webrunner on August 20, 2004, 01:55:37 AM
Quote
QuoteI'm sorry but i really can't stand that Alice Cooper crap. It is for has been hippies and wannebe junkies as far as i am concerned...

And ... i have anough homework as it is, in the real world. <_<
How does one get to be a wannabe junkie?
When he is to chicken to buy drugs...
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 20, 2004, 01:00:19 PM
AH, ic, me and somebody at the DEA of course are laughing our heads off.
Webrunner obviously managed to decrypt my coded message (only ROT13) to the DEA through ECHELON [ http://fly.hiwaay.net/~pspoole/echelon.html (http://fly.hiwaay.net/~pspoole/echelon.html) ] and was very disappointed that I had no intention whatsoever to send the sysops at FIBS extacy. Thus calling me a "wannabe junkie", to chicken to buy drugs ....... ROTFL

For those of you who didn't manage to decrypt that "enormously advanced" code, a transcript of that message below:

<<<QUOTE>>>

Dear Sirs,

As you have now found FIBS, I must tell you that there are no extacy dealers here, merely sweet old ladies, that like to play some games, oh, and of course the wannabe pro players that you have seen me addressing in my last posts. Don't worry, I have no intention whatsoever to ship any amounts of X anywhere or to anybody ..... however, I feel obliged to fullfill my civic duty and inform you of my suspicions about these backgammon playing socalled sweet little old ladies from Florida .... perhaps they are a front for some heavy cocaine smuggling or what not ???? They are playing so slow and when confronted with this they say they are on the phone but, hell, they might be planning a next drugrun ??!!!

Anyways, I hope to have set your minds at ease and also hope that the NSA computers didn't get too overloaded, decrypting this well meant message,

sincerely

Triple_X

<<<UNQUOTE>>>




Triple_X

"It is by far better to be a wannabe junkie than a disappointed junkie"


Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: webrunner on August 20, 2004, 04:10:50 PM
QuoteAH, ic, me and somebody at the DEA of course are laughing our heads off.
Webrunner obviously managed to decrypt my coded message (only ROT13) to the DEA through ECHELON [ http://fly.hiwaay.net/~pspoole/echelon.html (http://fly.hiwaay.net/~pspoole/echelon.html) ] and was very disappointed that I had no intention whatsoever to send the sysops at FIBS extacy. Thus calling me a "wannabe junkie", to chicken to buy drugs ....... ROTFL
Anything for a laugh ;)  :P  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: socksey on August 22, 2004, 01:13:31 AM
Triple_X says:  
Quotewhat do you think, would Mae West have had a bad rep here too ? I think so ;-))

Oh contraire, I think Mae would have been uncontested queen of Fibs!

Triple_X says:  
QuoteBTW, the amazones were a people where females were in charge, keeping males in cages and they were only allowed out of those (emotionally necessary ?) cages for coital purposes, after which they were put back in their cages.

Ah, yes, that would have been my in life #101.  Having enjoyed that life too much, in the next life, #102, my punishment was cleaning the cages.  Eeeeeeeewwww........lotacaca!

socksey




"You can fool too many of the people too much of the time." - James Thurber
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 22, 2004, 04:02:21 AM
I have little more to add to this thread - other than.......

diane wins 11 point match against triple_x 16-6  :D  :D  :D  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 22, 2004, 06:03:48 PM
I admit, I played you a "little" too reckless, forgetting my own "Borg-improvements" (to the already worldclass cube use I displayed, according to inim's GnuBG) of adapting my
cube use during the confrontation with the lucky streak of an opponent, getting increasingly frustrated by your "somewhat" fortunate rolls after I got ahead with 5-0, feeling over-confident by a fun- and great sexfilled evening with one of my ex's, that seems to want my child. Still intoxicated by the lingering remnants of high doses of testosterone, the smell of my cooking, sweat and body liquids, memories of passionate lovemaking still fresh in my mind and lulled by oceans of beer, white whine and tequila. (plus the rest that shall remain unnamed)
That last "all or nothing at all double" from 2 to 4 of mine in the last game did it, finishline in sight at 6-8 behind in an 11-pointer, doubling you and instead of regaining my headstart with 10-8 ultimately loosing with gammon. ;-(

"Lucky in love, unlucky at backgammon"

but fair is fair, credit where credit is due ...... so congratz on your "pyrrhic victory" ;-)

will you grant me a chance to revenge ? or will you frame the match results and hang them over your bed to gloat over each night, o, grand dutch mistress ??



as always, your obidient docile servant,


*vomit*


Triple_X

"So, what are you, like some special forces guy ?"
"Nah, I'm just a cook"
"A cook ?"
"Just a lowly, lowly cook !"
"Oh my God, we're gonna die !!"

(Erika Eleniak, Miss July '86, as Jordan Tate to Steven Seagal in "Under Siege")


Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 22, 2004, 06:24:07 PM
The score was 8-6, I had doubled - and was going to gammon - leading to win of 12 -6, the redouble just increased that to 16-6, didnt change the outcome, just the score  :D (to clarify your explanation - for earthlings!)

If ya want I could post the analysis - just in case anyone is any doubt as to how lucky/unlucky/playing badly you were  :D  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 22, 2004, 06:53:49 PM
to Diane: Whatever gets you through the night, sweetie ......... I think you already know what I think of the analytical capabilities of GnuBG, especially regarding "luck".

you won, period, happy ?

Question is: Will you go for the rematch or not ? Let's play for something real, your cherry for instance, after, say, the best of three ?! You will then of course board a plane to The Hague and offer it to me, most willingly and eager, hungry look in eye and all .. ......... if I loose, I promise to step into any cage of yours in London of your choosing, deal ?

Oh yes, and no "external advisors through chat" this time, ok ?


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to Socksey: Understanding the very nature of Mae West's character means understanding that she would be controversial (in the masses eye) in any time.
So I suspect she WOULD have had a bad rep here too, like me, and like me, constantly "under siege" from those very masses .....

Reducing her to some sex craving, saying-stuff-merely-for-the-effect-of-it being, really doesn't do her justice ........ fortunately she still has real admirers that defend her, even far beyond the grave, like me ;-)

[You'd better not be some 15 year old closet fagget that's overcompensating, darling]



most humbly yours,


Triple_X

"You're not a cook !"
"Yeah, well... I also cook"
*cocking his MP-5K*

(Elena Eleniak to Steven Seagal in "Under Siege")
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 22, 2004, 07:19:13 PM
DVD-player died on me while capturing scene .... rerouting .... et voila:

to be added to last posting
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: milo on August 22, 2004, 09:24:57 PM
Per-leeze, I have never read so much unadulterated swill in my entire life!    :stupid:  Either this guy is having a laugh or he's so far up his own backside that his only hope is a team of highly-skilled surgeons.........  keep it up, XXX, if only for the entertainment value....  :LOL2:

Oh, and keep those "body liquids" flowing.....   :wub:
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 22, 2004, 10:13:20 PM
QuoteQuestion is: Will you go for the rematch or not

Maybe - next time I am drunk and feeling frivolous - you were actually more fun to play than I expected!!

QuoteOh yes, and no "external advisors through chat" this time, ok

There were none - just a little moral support - I do like a bit of cheering - and you will have to face it - a lot of people will queue up to see you lose  :D

QuoteYou will then of course board a plane to The Hague and offer it to me,

not likely - have way to much respect for my 'cherry' for that   :P

Quoteif I loose, I promise to step into any cage of yours in London of your choosing

its ok - my cage is already full enough  ;)

Quotekeep it up, XXX, if only for the entertainment value.
absolutely - we have grown accustomed to your swill  :D  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 23, 2004, 02:19:52 PM
QuotePer-leeze, I have never read so much unadulterated swill in my entire life!

Then perhaps it was high time ;-)

QuoteEither this guy is having a laugh 

Seeing the relativity (the basis of most humour) of it all on this server is about the only thing one can do here .... so I'll let you do the math

Quoteor he's so far up his own backside that his only hope is a team of highly-skilled surgeons.....

What do you suggest professor ... a long overdue lobotomy ?

Quotekeep it up, XXX, if only for the entertainment value....

We just might .... it is of course not my calling in life to entertain you all, especially if this all goes at my own expense ... we have problems enough (MPS) keeping all our personalities together and integrated. Being equal parts God and the Devil, existing both in the physical and metaphysical world, realising that time is not a lineair phenomena, we sometimes struggle to keep all our different sides integrated into one whole three dimensional holy trinity .... in short Triple_X

QuoteOh, and keep those "body liquids" flowing.....

Willdo, it is an essential part of my staying sane, cos we all know how close genius and madness are together, right ?

[with reference to: http://www.art.com/asp/sp-asp/_/Aff--CONF/...746/posters.htm (http://www.art.com/asp/sp-asp/_/Aff--CONF/CTID--56021148/RFID--307786/TKID--15034602/pd--10005746/posters.htm) ]

Channeling all that energy, an outlet .... fun most of the time and the last decade it has even become more exciting with all this HIV floating around, like russian roulette ;-)



Hoping to have informed you extensively,

yours sincerely,


Triple_X

e=mc2 + Borg improvements - luckfactor







Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 23, 2004, 03:04:29 PM
QuoteMaybe - next time I am drunk and feeling frivolous - you were actually more fun to play than I expected!! 

Well, all I need is the benefit of the doubt and one foot in the door ... sky is the limit, hell, the universe !!!

QuoteThere were none (external advisors) - just a little moral support

Hmm, I do seem to remember inim giving you the most important piece of usable info just before we started .... "watch out for his cube, Diane !!" .... which resulted in you folding faster than I could even polish the cube in the first five games.

inim, that not two weeks ago I taught a thing or two about the psychologically and strategic correct moment to use the cube ..... he might have now become something of a lethal weapon .... because of his incredible eary capacity to throw himself out of trouble at crucial moments. Playing him proved to be a real challenge, his sustained luck at crucial moments vs my cube use. In the end, it pays to be lucky over having a clue, as you can see in the overview of our matches that he posted here earlier.
Therefore I am not counting the 11 pointers with him. They were experimental.
As far as the ongoing, unlimited, ultimate mother of all matches for 100 pts is concerned,  the score is still in my favor ... to date it is 65 - 43 (details available on request), we'll get to a hundred soon enough ........ ;-))

As for the other numerous moments of "lag" at crucial moments in the match against you .... I shall extend you the same courtacy and give you the benefit of the doubt.

Quotehave way to much respect for my 'cherry' for that

OK, clear, I guess anal is out ......

Quoteits ok - my cage is already full enough

So I guessed right, yes, most popular women have what I call a "fanclub of bystanders" that just hang around to see if they might get lucky in time. You know, the kind you keep to drive you places, to console you when things don't work out with real lovers, for chaperone-services etc., you know, the socalled "male friends" ;-))

Quotewe have grown accustomed to your swill

Better watch out, I seem to be highly addictive .....


Anyways, time for a piece offering, I will try to send you a unique recording of Alice Cooper's "Only Women Bleed" featuring Slash. This 6.6 Mb mp3 hardly qualifies as a mailbomb, but it might be necessary for you to provide me with an alternate provider, should your presently known to me one not accept this thingie ...... enjoy


as always, your most unhumble undocile servant,



Triple_X

"Stay on top, but remain from the underground !" (Xzibit - X)


 
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: PortWine on August 24, 2004, 03:42:15 AM
I thought it appropriate that I announce my elevation to "dutch grandmaster" status by beating Triple XXX in a 5 pointer.

Of course according to XXX I was "lucky" because I won the final 4-4 game while he left one checker on the board.

I've had turkey, chicken, quail, cornish game hen, but I have never had crow.  How did it taste XXX?

Also, inam ran our match through snowie or gnubg and they said we both played in the 1600 range (I was 2 points higher) and that we both sucked.  To this I readily agree but I never claimed to be a "dutch grandmaster".

I look for your witty and acid/coke/marijuana induced reply replete with references to bad steven segal movies (are there any good ones), guns, and star trek.

PW   :2drunk:  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 24, 2004, 04:35:36 PM
QuoteI thought it appropriate that I announce my elevation to "dutch grandmaster" status by beating Triple XXX in a 5 pointer 

No problem here ... contrary to all of you, I don't have a "jealousy/frustration driven" problem with that .... provided you ARE Dutch, of course ;-)

[BTW, no big deal pal, if Diane and me would have played such a short match, it would have been 5-0 for me, so ... ]

Let's get into this a little deeper, since all of your little brains seem to want to keep this misunderstanding going on forever and ever and ever ..... very tenaciously !

I NEVER claimed to be a "Dutch Grand Master" in the first place ... all I did was mention in general chat that of my 30 yrs experience in playing backgammon, I played a few "Dutch Grand Masters" for some five years, a few times a week in chouettes and one on one for money. You all took it exactly the way you wanted to take it, lifted it out of context and turned it into me bragging that I was a "Dutch Grand Master". How drole ... and how very telling about all of you. I'm pretty sure that almost no one here is a "Grand Master", let alone have ever played one.
Of course this is something that all of you "perhaps" dream of becoming.
Ergo, everyone is somewhat frustrated by not being a "Grand Master" and of course jealous of that status. A jealousy/frustration driven response.

Of course you don't have to believe me, about what I said in general chat, that started all this, but now I come to an interesting detail about the provider that is hosting FIBS.
Most hackers (those with a clue) stay away from XS4all, since they log EVERYTHING, perhaps because this provider was cofounded by a well known hacker, Rob Gongrijp, ex-editor of the magazine Hack-tic.
So you see, my words in general chat are logged somewhere, so go do your homework people, it will prove me right.

[So Socksey, you are right, I had nothing to do with the DDoS attack of last Friday on your Apache server, running on an old version of Mandrake, cos I only know European hackers WITH a clue. BTW, I'd never do such a thing cos it is very lame, but if I did, I'd just call some Ukrainian haXor friends to execute such a thing for abovementioned reasons, they don't give a damn, they are not subject to European legislation, but they DO love money. In others words: be glad it wasn't me, cos you would not see me coming, nor would you be able to trace such a thing back to me]

QuoteOf course according to XXX I was "lucky" because I won the final 4-4 game while he left one checker on the board.

Of course you were ..... you won from me, right ? ;-)

QuoteI've had turkey, chicken, quail, cornish game hen, but I have never had crow. How did it taste XXX?

Dunno WinePort, you should know that ... you had it ;-) Good movie btw, "The Crow" check it out:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109506/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109506/)

QuoteAlso, inam ran our match through snowie or gnubg and

Inam, is that short for "Imam Inim", is he the keeper/highpriest of your holier than holiest of analysis programs, GnuBG/Snowie ? Told you all time and time again I don't think much of that program. For reasons I shall reveal later. But to give you an idea: I sometimes, during a lucky streak of my opponent play some moves in an unorthodox way (more risk) to try and steal even a hopeless game. This of course can sometimes result in the gammon or worse. Well, those moves will most definately be rated by such an orthodox program as "bad". Most people just "go with the flow" and maybe win one out of five (?) backgames, me, I like to try to increase those numbers, even against the odds. No guts, no glory. Also, during a streak of luck from your opponent one of the few things you can do to stop your opponent from earning points is "conservative to no" use of the cube ... this will slow his pointmaking down while you ride out the storm. Again, GnuBG will rate this sort of cube use as "bad". In both cases GnuBG is wrong.

Quotesnowie or gnubg said we both sucked. To this I readily agree .. 

Modesty becomes you ...

QuoteI never claimed to be a "dutch grandmaster" 

Neither did I ..... clear ?

QuoteI look for your witty and acid/coke/marijuana induced reply replete with references to bad steven segal movies (are there any good ones), guns, and star trek

Acid I never tried, my life is plenty "hallucinogenic" at times as it is.

Coke never did much for me, I already have an abundance of energy and confidence ... only take that sh** very rarely if I want to give my system a boost, for instance, meeting this georgious chick late at night in a nightclub, in fact too tired to have an in-depth conversation, a bit too boozed up, so I neutralise the downer (alcohol) with an upper (peruvian ba-ba-powder). Disadvantage of coke is that you always pay the price for "stealing energy from tomorrow" the next day. Incredible hangovers during that terrible low ... of course some try to climb out of that low by snorting some more ... and that, my alcoholic friend, is one sure step in the direction of addiction.

You see, I use stuff, stuff will never use me ...... there are two sorts of people in this world, junkies and dealers and I'm not a junkie, nor will I ever be.

Now marihuana is a friend of mine, it relaxes me, also, being an entheogenic plant, it can be confrontationally pleasing (or frightning) at times. But hell, there is nothing to fear but fear itself, right ?!

Since my DVD-player is dead, I shall have to describe to scene from "Under Siege" that I initially had in mind to accompany this posting, picture this:

After having succesfully countered some attacks from the bad guys, Steven Seagal figures it is time for a counter offensive and leads the very few people he freed into a firefight, saying the immortal words "There I go", guns blazing (not one, but two MP-5K's spraying in both directions), ultimately resulting in him gaining the initiative that leads to victory. ;-))



Triple_X

"There I go"

(Steven Seagal in "Under Siege")





Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: PortWine on August 25, 2004, 02:37:09 AM
I second Milo's question.  WTF is the deal with Stevan Segal.  Perhaps he is your "wannabe God"?

In regards to your earlier remark that if you and Diane had played a 5 pointer it would have been 5-0 shows that your tactics are screwed up.  You play the double cube different depending on points.  Even a noob like me knows that.  You might not have gotten to 5-0 in a 5 pointer.  Understand?

Always here to help,

PW
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 25, 2004, 07:35:13 AM
Quote

In regards to your earlier remark that if you and Diane had played a 5 pointer it would have been 5-0 shows that your tactics are screwed up.  You play the double cube different depending on points.  Even a noob like me knows that.  You might not have gotten to 5-0 in a 5 pointer.  Understand?
Thanks Port - I forgot to mention that - though he did have a good run of luck in those first 5 pts - even the ever optimistic Gnu believed I was correct to pass!!!

And I am sure you are not a noob  :D  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 27, 2004, 01:42:54 PM
there ya go .... rightclick, save link target as C301.wav .... no comments




Triple_X

"My designation is One of Trillion"

(Triple_X in "Triple_X, The Movie")
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 29, 2004, 03:34:55 AM
A little chatting with Nihilist after I invited him to our third and final 11 pts match ...he declined .... pHear ?


NIHolympic says: we're done playing
Triple_X says: and why is that ?
NIHolympic says: because you behaved like a jerk after our last match
Triple_X says: hmm, so winning from you makes me the ass you called me yesterday ?
Triple_X says: is your ego that weak ?
NIHolympic says: no, your idiot behavior AFTER the match
Triple_X says: be specific
NIHolympic says: i still thing bg is a gentlemans game, you dont, so we wont play
NIHolympic says: thx for playing, good luck
Triple_X says: I do think bg is a gentlemen's game, for some 30 yrs now, but you don't seem to understand a little "enthousism" on my side after being trashed here for no reason and winning from the hero of all these stupid asses here
Triple_X says: So i am supposed to understand and forgive everyone here and nobody will even try to understand me ?
Triple_X says: NEVER
Triple_X says: I had no problem with you the last two days, in fact I even started to like you, so how about it ?
NIHolympic says: i dont care what you do with anyone else; i treated you like a gentleman after i won, you didnt reciprocate; end of story
Triple_X says: and would you, as a "gentleman", at least have the courtacy to explain to me in detail what i did to you that was so terrible ?
Triple_X says: cos now you're just being vague
NIHolympic says: your idiotic shouted gloating
Triple_X says: You obviously know nothing of the history I have here the past three weeks
Triple_X says: or you would understand
Triple_X says: considering what folks here accused me of ... bragging and all
NIHolympic says: I havent been a part of any of it
Triple_X says: I know you haven't been a part of that
NIHolympic says: 2 matches is plenty, good luck to you, but we're done
Triple_X says: just asking for a little understanding
Triple_X says: I enjoyed our matches and think we should not let "them" influence "us", that's all
NIHolympic says: i understand you behaved like a jerk
NIHolympic says: look, were done playing
Triple_X says: Do you understand that beating their big, untouchable hero 23-5 puts all these morons in their place ???
Triple_X says: ok, if you are going to be stubborn, fine, bottomline is, you lost in netscore of games 25-17 and will obviously never be able to do anything about that
Triple_X says: I am therefore one of the few people that beat you, period !!
NIHolympic says: you must be joking; all you accomplished was to look like a bigger jerk
NIHolympic says: i won one, you won one; no big deal
Triple_X says: 2-12 and 23-5, you do the math
NIHolympic says: great, have it your way
Triple_X says: I just offered very gracefully to make it the best of three ... forgeting the score in gamesl ... but if not, it will just be 25-17 in MY favor
Triple_X says: don't let your ego get the better of you or you will even loose that battle
NIHolympic says: whatever
Triple_X says: ok, you made your choice
Triple_X says: and have now lost twice
Triple_X: psychologically and bottomline
Triple_X says: I must say this is reaaaaal champ-behaviour ..... NOT !!!
Triple_X says: I must say you dissapoint me ... your "gentlemen's
inclination" seems to be only skin deep
Triple_X says: bye
Triple_X says: you have been "seen"




Triple_X

"A coward dies a thousand times a day, a true hero only once in his life !!"

(Triple_X in "Triple_X, The Movie")
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: diane on August 29, 2004, 04:13:42 AM
QuoteNIHolympic says: i still thing bg is a gentlemans game,

This will amuse me for many months, I think  :D  
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on August 29, 2004, 12:59:35 PM
QuoteThis will amuse me for many months, I think 

Yes Diane, it just might ... NIHOlympic/Nihilist reminds me a bit of that reaaaal sportive Iranian judo champion that at the Olympics refused to play his Israeli opponent.
Just thinking of his possible defeat would have been intolerable to his and his country's very weak ego.    

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Number=292860467 (http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Number=292860467)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5709978/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5709978/)

Especially considering that the Arabic version of "wag the dog" is state sponsored antisemitism on a grand scale ... even the remotest possibility of defeat would have been "unsellable" to the misguided sons and daughters of Allah.




Triple_X

"I find it shameful that state-run television stations contribute to the resurgent antisemitism, crying only over Palestinian deaths while playing down Israeli deaths, glossing over them in unwilling tones. I find it shameful that in their debates they host with much deference the scoundrels with turban or kaffiah who yesterday sang hymns to the slaughter at New York and today sing hymns to the slaughters at Jerusalem, at Haifa, at Netanya, at Tel Aviv. I find it shameful that the press does the same, that it is indignant because Israeli tanks surround the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem, that it is not indignant because inside that same church two hundred Palestinian terrorists well armed with machine guns and munitions and explosives (among them are various leaders of Hamas and Al-Aqsa) are not unwelcome guests of the monks (who then accept bottles of mineral water and jars of honey from the soldiers of those tanks). I find it shameful that, in giving the number of Israelis killed since the beginning of the Second Intifada (four hundred twelve), a noted daily newspaper found it appropriate to underline in capital letters that more people are killed in their traffic accidents. (Six hundred a year)."

(Oriana Fallaci)


Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: webrunner on September 01, 2004, 07:51:29 PM
I have split this topic into a new one, Just for Tripple_X.
I took most of the carbage out of this one and moved it over to a new topic especially for Tripple_X (http://www.fibsboard.com/index.php?showtopic=548) since he seems in need of  a place to express himself.

Go for it XXX !! :cool:  
But let's keep this thread about BG.
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: Triple_X on September 01, 2004, 09:22:43 PM
Roger that webrunner ....... out

.... added an illustration from a book on games by Alfonso X, the first recorded mention of backgammon in history, my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great- great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-
great-grandfather ;-))



Triple_X

"too beaver or not too beaver, that is the question !"

(Triple_X in "Triple_X, The Movie")
Title: Match Triple_X vs deuce
Post by: MemyselfandI on September 07, 2004, 12:31:33 PM
Greatings, earthlings ...... Triple_X hacked a KH-11 spy satelite to relay the following message to you mortals:

=A PROMISE=

For reasons, that will soon be made very clear in this hopefully unmoderated (read unconsored and/OR cleverly abbreviated) posting, I feel the need to enlighten all of you on what really went on with "webrunner"and me.

First of all I never physically threatened Eric Nijman aka "webrunner", nor did I ever accuse him of being an Al Qaida member (?) ... both of those claims by him where blatant lies, and an attempt to ridicule me, discredit me and fool you and the American moderators with a fabricated reason aided by his cunningly leaving crucial parts out of my last posting and subsequently banning me from FIBSboard to avoid my inevitable exposing of his lies. However, as you see, I WILL have my "day in court" so to speak, metaphorically speaking or literally, up to him.

What I did do was ask him very nicely (since nice was the agreed latest fashion), to do something in order to avoid possible further flamewars or flareups of this unnecessary sort of thing (again, as agreed), between "zoeboy" and me. I suggested to "webrunner" that it might be a wise decision of "webrunner" to remove the "putrified gut spillling", the enormously prolonged staccato of low blows by "zoeboy", ad hominum directed at me,  since I, up to that point, had exercised great restraint in not replying to any of his twisted accusations in detail.
I therefore suggested he put these two or three postings in a seperate thread, to be newly formed by him as moderator, since they were of a questionable low calibre (but not seen through by him) and not even worthy of my effort and time and also off topic (since that thread was not at all about him OR Nihilist, his hero).

It would otherwise only result in more flamewars.

A wise and reasonable request, I think, especially in light of his seeing fit to do exactly the same to me (but in fact obscuring all my explained issues, by splitting the thread in two, thus removing some of my "ramblings" (to the untrained eye, of course) and placing  them in a seperate thread.

He refused stubbornly, even after my second request, in which I expressed the thought that he only SAYS he wants to avoid flamewars but in fact, by doing nothing, prolongs them and/or facilitates a possible flare up, since I had shown restraint thusfar, but wouldn't stay so nice for much longer.
A simple, wise and intelligent request ....... he refused again, brushing it aside and telling me that he did not want to be told what to do etc. thus showing me he not only has a very weak ego, but is somewhat "intellectually handicapped" ("nicely" enough put, webbie ?) and for obscure reasons (at that time) was not being objective, as a good moderator or "referee" should be. In short, in stead of doing the wise and objective thing he favors "zoeboy" and only acts when it serves his purpose alone. Why, I wondered ?

Until a befriended hacker pointed me to a message called "WEBRUNNER's HOT NEWS", http://webrunner.pitas.com/ (http://webrunner.pitas.com/) , in which he expresses views that probably are, no doubt, exactly the same as "zoeboy"'s own twisted political views are, as are his twisted views on me, camouflaged by a tricky sause of "reasononability and hypocritical acted compassion for humanity. I was the brilliant, erudite, manipulative yet despicable stingy beast, remember ? .... typical case of projection.

I do hope for you "webrunner", that the American moderators share your view that about a thousand American soldiers have died for an unworthy cause, in an unjust war, being the result of just one madman's plans, GWB, as you expressed it in the article, accompanied by more paranoid leftist "conspiracy theories", so ludricous, that no one with a clue would take them serious. Again, I hope the American moderators, with which YOU so subtly threatened ME, share your views. What was it you told me ? "I may be a reasonable and tolerant guy, but if the American moderators of this board decide to pull the plug on your thread, there is nothing I can do about it, sorry !" .... how completely hypocritical, deceitfull and how little did I know then in retrospect.

Even IF your claim is true, in your email to me later, that you are not the person that posted this view on that site in Belgium, it would have explained my "dissapointment" in you, but still leaves us with the following questions: Why would you want to keep using a nick that, you claim, so many people use ? Don't you realise that this alleged sort of "misunderstanding" is unavoidable and to be expected in time ..... ?" Again, IF what you claim is true ! You will understand, no doubt, that I no longer wish to give you the benefit of the doubt ....

I am therefore posting this at 04.00 hours (GMT +1), knowing/hoping that you and/or Patti will be asleep and the evening/night in the US is still young, so this posting will at least be here for approx. 4-8 hours or more .... enough for them and any other American moderator and/or other follower(s) of this thread to see you exposed for the lier and very selective censor with a hidden political agenda on a gamesserver's board you are.

I prepared all this last night, to be posted here now, one full day later, in order for me to also be to "see" all the responses of my socalled friends here at FIBS, as well as the openly hostile ... you have now ALL been "seen". Another reason why I no longer WISH to be among you all. I shall leave future events to the Gods (plural) and practice Wu-Wei (remember ?) from a terrace in Rome and an unnamed beach in Turkey. This time for real.

Should you, stubbornly and/or stupidly (two of your better qualities) decide to remove, edit, moderate or otherwise change this posting in any way to serve your dubious purposes AGAIN, I shall feel obliged to post it again and again and again and soforth, until everyone has seen you for the very "objective" moderator you are not.

BTW don, I have read your, somewhat groveling and futile, posting after your 7-day ban, but this guy does not respond well to reasoning, so let me give you an example of how one DOES handle this sort of person. We were already compared to eachother by PortWine (although he thought I had more humour and rationality ;-)), but my guess is we also both stumbled upon the same problem here on FIBSboard, called "webrunner and his misguided flock".

=THE OTHER PROMISE=

By all means "webrunner" ... be so stupid as to file a complaint against me with the local police for alleged physical threats made by me against you. I have kept copies of all our communications and will then not only counter by filing charges of filing false charges, but also sue you for personal damage and slander, which you will either lose or will bankrupts you, more likely both.
I have put my favorite lawyer for these sort of things up to speed and believe me, he is so tenacious, pitbulls are named after him.

His name is Mr. J.L. Pit and since he, not so long ago, bought a rather large villa in Wassenaar, has a young wife, a child and occasionally loves living in the fastlane, this € 300,- an hour workoholic pitbull appreciates any financial contributions of mine that, in the end, will be paid for by you. Now let's see, if my favorite lawyer costs € 300,- an hour, how much should I cost ???? Hmmm .... interesting, it might all add up to a nice little sum, if I so choose, that will bankrupt you, since you not only will have to defend yourself with legal representation, but you will also ultimately end up paying the legal fees and costs, ALL legal costs and the settlement lump sum. You will loose bigtime, my "friend" ... whether you win or loose.

I didn't physically threaten you or accuse you of being an Al Qaida member, both lies you will retract or pay the price .... the legal price in your, no doubt, hard earned cash, that is.

All I did was accuse you of not being objective ... that's all and you know it !!

I furthermore told you that your future as a webdesigner/IT "professional" is over, not a threat but a promise. I simply know too many people in that field or any other corporate field in The Netherlands (your customers) or abroad (more customers) for that matter, for that NOT to happen, if you don't rectify your latest lies and fabrications on the  frontpage, that is, the homepage of FIBSboard as well as in this thread. You shall simply otherwise have to content yourself with the crums of other people's tables in a meager existance.

Sorry pal, you smear my good name and reputation and I will simply enlighten folks with the truth, here or in court, virtual or in real life, up to you .... "Free wil's a b.tch, aint it ? (Al Pacino in "The Devil's Advocate)

Looking forward to your rectification which you shall leave for all to read for at least one month as well as the immediate lifting of the ban ... after which I shall simply refrain from posting here ever again, since I AM the older and wiser party in this dispute or any other. TRy to be a real man for a change.

I remain, forever, not yours but very sincerely,




Triple_X

"Ban, what ban ? He closes the frontdoor, I go in the sidedoor, he closes that, I find another backdoor or have it found, hell, I am now only using a highly anonymous proxy server in Thailand and removed some cookies. Tomorrow perhaps I shall appear to be in Korea or wherever, let him ban my IP, he can't ban ALL IP's of the world. I don't care. I WILL be heard, I WILL be understood and I WILL expose even the smallest abuse of even the smallest amounts of power, always, anywhere, anytime, in the name of justice and freedom for all !! And you know why we will win ? Superior attitude, superior state of mind !!"

(Triple_X in "Triple_X, The Movie")


P.S. To unnerve the, beaten to death argument of the left and of course again played here card, of me being a racist, I feel obliged to inform you all of the fact that I count many Islamic friends, acquaintances and even an Iranian ex-girlfriend, that I still regularly "see", among my many contacts in this country and many others. Not even counting the other representatives of other races and/or other religions. I am a very tolarant being, except when provoked in this manner, then you unleash my "stingy beast" side .....
The core of my politicaln message was that I find, as does the halfbrother of King Abdullah of Jordan by the way (Allah be praised), that the group (Islam) should SELF-regulate, in other words, the by far larger and by far more moderate greater part of the entire Islamic Community should clean house themselves ... no more, no less ... Insh'allah

P.S. (2) Diane, don't play the "murdered innocence" with me, it doesn't become you, by saying very hypocritically: "What did I ever do to this guy ?" ...... you know very well your past postings is what caused me to eventuall calling you a "vinegar pissing sourpuss" .... which was after a few hours immediately censored by our moderator. You know very well what you posted, totally unnecessary and unprovoked ad hominum attacks and lately you have gotten a piece of your own back, so don't whine but try harder at keeping up the act of being the "Lady Di" of FIBS, no doubt you will succeed before this audience.