KMA's Tourney Titles

[KissMyAss]

Just wondering what people think of them...

Do they offend so much you're not willing to join?   Do you delight in them, and eagerly await my next one?  

I am thinking about offering a prize to the winners of my tournaments.  What, I haven't decided yet.  Maybe  some of you could offer some insight as to what you would play for... serious question, I'm looking for advice.  
I know tshirts have been done in the past, so am not going down that track.... but if there are people out there with small businesses, who play gammon for stress release after a long day, maybe I could offer them a free website for their business?   Cos I would be fine with setting that up, is hardly any work at all, apart from getting the information they want to include.

However, there would be a condition on the tourney where that was a prize.

I would have to have at least 20 players in the tourney.   It would still be open to all comers, so if any of you have any issues with anyone else, I would appreciate that they be left at the tourney door.  As you all know, I have no issue with anyone on FIBS, I have had nothing to do with all the stuff from the past, so I would appreciate the courtesy of having it kept outta my tournament, so that any new faces who join, don't have to be subjected to it.

If you overshoot the timeout clock, there is no point whinging to me that you were unfairly bounced from the tourney.  I give plenty of warnings in shouts when the tourney is about to start, tourneybot also gives those warnings, therefore it is up to you as the registered player to watch shouts for tourney updates, and to make sure your ass is ready to play when it starts.   I will not be responsible for getting you to the tourney on time.  

There may be things that I don't know, tourneybot commands I haven't learned yet, things I do differently in shouts to advertise the upcoming tourney.  I am ME, not any other TD.   I won't be shouting things with stars around them, like someone else does with their tourneys.  I won't be changing the timeout clock to a certain number of minutes, because someone else does it.  Five minutes is long enough to go offline and come back in, in the event of lag.  If you have a complete computer failure, and have to reboot, which may take longer than the five minutes, well there's nothing I can do about that.  As I said, I don't know all the commands, therefore if you are not back in the game in time, tourneybot awards the win to your opponent.  I can't do anything about it.


I would also like some kind of insight as to why I am struggling to get asses on seats in my tourneys.  I get that some times are early morning, or too late at night, but am curious as to any other reasons you may not enter.  Do my tourney titles offend?  Have I pissed people off?  (If so, I would prefer to be told in person, so we can sort it and move on).


All feedback welcome

[Tanika]

I may be at work when you start your tourneys Tash, but when I'm logged in when you start them count me in! BTW...can i use a line of two from your post?   
hugs darl!

[diane]

Regular time slots help - as mentioned by Rick...advertising helps too.

More importantly, I am finding Australians and players on this side dont participate in tournaments that much. This may be because they typically didnt have TDs running tournaments in the right time slots, or because there just arent so many logged in. Prime time Oz playing has about 100-150 players, compared to 200-250 prime time America. This may be weather related, I am watching if the numbers change over the winter months.

Certainly active promotion and advertising can only help that - not so sure that prizes will help at this stage.

[KissMyAss]

I may be at work when you start your tourneys Tash, but when I'm logged in when you start them count me in! BTW...can i use a line of two from your post?   
hugs darl!

You can use anything you like from my post darlin, the whole thing if you wish.  Marital rights and all that.     Hugs

[KissMyAss]

Regular time slots help - as mentioned by Rick...advertising helps too.

More importantly, I am finding Australians and players on this side dont participate in tournaments that much. This may be because they typically didnt have TDs running tournaments in the right time slots, or because there just arent so many logged in. Prime time Oz playing has about 100-150 players, compared to 200-250 prime time America. This may be weather related, I am watching if the numbers change over the winter months.

Certainly active promotion and advertising can only help that - not so sure that prizes will help at this stage.

That's why I have the poll running, to see if people would consider the idea a worthwhile one or not.  Have had a few responses in person when i mentioned it in shouts, and they have all been favourable so far.

[socksey]

I have done all but stand on my head to get player participation sometimes.     I gave up on that.  Why should I have to beg?     If they want to play, they will, if not, they won't.     Typically, winter brings out more tourney participation for me.  When it's summer, many are off doing summer things like swimming and hiking.   

socksey



The world cannot be discovered by a journey of miles . . . only by a spiritual journey . . . by which we arrive at the ground at our feet, and learn to be at home. - Wendell Berry

[KissMyAss]

Socksey....

I am disappointed that you gave up honey, would love to see you standing on your head.... I feel a story coming on!  lol

Yeah I hear ya.    Am just gonna advertise the prize with every tourney I run.  And one day, if there's 20 people in there, then the prize will be played for. 


Hugs

[sixty_something]

when you started this post, KMA, you asked "Do my tourney titles offend?" .. that never made sense to me since i've not been present for any of your tourneys .. i tried to get there this morning, but i missed you -- locally, it is a 7 AM start time

yesterday, i noticed diane added five tourneys titled KMA's Salute to Erotica! to my Tourney Schedules thread .. well, i am not exactly offended, but i do think those are VERY inappropriate tourney names for a regularly scheduled FIBS tourney, especially one you propose to run 5 days a week, Monday through Friday

today, before i logged in, i noticed that the names were changed to KMA's Salute! .. apparently, someone agreed with me .. while erotica is nice, i really don't think it makes any sense in a tourney name .. i mean, am i really going to invite my grandson or a newcomer to join me for a "Salute to Erotica!"? i don't think so

IMO, our FIBS tourneys, especially the regularly scheduled ones, offer a great way to build and/or rebuild civility and good sportsmanship at FIBS .. additionally, regularly scheduled tourneys offer a great way to invite newcomers or oldtimers who have left an opportunity to check out FIBS tourneys again or for the first time .. since a tourney name offers an opportunity for a good first impression, it is important not to get too edgy or too boring

next in importance is attendance, if we're going to promote a tourney as a regularly scheduled tourney, it is important those tourneys make .. TourneyBot will support as few as three (3) players .. if, after several weeks, we can't get 3 players to register for a tourney, maybe it is time to consider doing something different, i.e. improving promotion, finding a core group of committed players, changing the time, or just cancelling the tourney .. nothing offends more than setting aside time to play in a tourney only to find no one else is there to play

regardless, good luck with your ambitious and enthusiastic attempt at getting new tourneys started for the down under and Pacific rim crowd, KMA and diane .. i wish i could get my tourney mojo going early enough to participate, but it isn't likely on a regular basis

[dorbel]

IMO, our FIBS tourneys..... offer a great way to build and/or rebuild civility and good sportsmanship at FIBS

Really? A triumph of hope over experience!

[diane]

if, after several weeks, we can't get 3 players to register for a tourney, maybe it is time to consider doing something different, i.e. improving promotion, finding a core group of committed players, changing the time, or just cancelling the tourney .. nothing offends more than setting aside time to play in a tourney only to find no one else is there to play

Well, actually it does..wanting to play in tourneys, and not being able to attend any of the ones which run because of time differences...so setting up one suitable to your own time zone. Then setting aside the time to run it - as well as advertising, and then finding that you can't get enough participants, because the only significant numbers of players logged in are on Odesys and dont see the shouts.

So you STILL cant play in tournaments..which are great fun and more interesting than one off matches.

I am having trouble with the saturday one, so am changing the times and trying to find a place to put it to get participation - whilst trying to balance the fact that if you change the times too often or too much - you loose the one or two players who did show up for it...

Then, when you are in the middle of that frustration and working on the problem, someone who obviously cannot make the tournaments, assumes you arent doing anything and expresses some 'concern' and suggests they should be cancelled. 

I wont give up on these tournaments for a year, that gives us time to establish if the winter months bring in more poeple hiding from the cold and the dark. If they stil arent getting participation, I shall give up and accept that I simply cannot play in tournaments anymore - and the 'best players in the world'  will come from the pool of people who can sit there all day if need, be to enter every single tournament in their time zone and win by sheer volume, not quality.

[KissMyAss]

For starters, I ran the tourney titles past both Patti and Tom.  Neither of them voiced any disapproval.  And since it was Tom who set up the automatic tourney for me, he had the chance while we were discussing the set up, to suggest I change the name.  Since neither of them had an issue with it, I would like to know WHO changed the title, and WHY they did so without consulting me.
If nobody can come up with an answer to both these questions, then I will simply leave.  You all seem to come to me with the 'rules' about how to show respect for other TD's and yet I seem to get none in return.  Regardless of how long I have been here, and who has been here longer than me, I AM A TD.  As such, I think the same rules apply to me too. Don't they?  If so, I would like my tourney titles back.  If not, well I would like to know why not.

Secondly, I HAVE tried running it at other times, and ended up butting against other tourneys that are running.  I have tried to work out the time difference thing with all the utc and all that, I CANNOT DO IT.  So there's no point telling me to look at the schedule.   

You mention that the time my tourney runs, is seven am for you Sixtie, therefore you can't make it.  Which is fine, I wouldn't be there at seven am my time either for a tourney.  But at the time when most of the tourneys of the regulars run, it is three am or thereabouts my time.  My kid doesn't even bother waking me then. 
Before it was auto set up, i ran tourneys at twelve midnite, two hours after they are set up for now.  And STILL nobody was able to join from the regular crew.  Oh they were online half the time, but didn't join for whatever reason.  Which I accept, people have the choice on whether they join or not.  Nobody has heard me complain once about that, because I haven't said a word about it, and won't be doing so any time soon.

But as Diane has said, the tourneys I run, are at an Australia friendly time.  And they could also be entered by those who are new to the tourney environment, who choose not to join when the stronger players are around, because of a confidence lack, or whatever.   I have had a few tourneys that didn't kick off due to lack of players, sure.  It's not like it inconveniences many, and i have messaged the people signed on, saying that it wont run due to lack of participation, and thanking them for joining my tourney. 

Moreover, when i first became td and started making tourneys, I said, and will stand by my words, that my tourneys were aimed more towards people from my side of the world, and as a friendly introduction for newbie tourney players.  I will continue to run these tourneys, whether they play or not, with that in mind.

Re the advertising..... I do advertise a LOT in shouts.  AND have been bounced for doing so.  NOT by Patti, because I actually have her approval.  I'm sure that if the frequency of my advertising gets out of hand, then she will let me know.  Until then, I will continue with the periodic advertising.

In summation, some of the more 'dodgy' tourney titles, have been the ones to attract newbie players, and i would like them returned to me, or a direct explanation from the one who changed it, as to why not.  Since I don't have an issue with any one of you, i don't understand the complete lack of respect I have been shown in this regard. 

As you all know, I don't get involved with online battles, and I am not angry about this, just saddened and disappointed.  I am approachable on this matter, and would like to discuss it directly with whoever is involved. 

Thank you.

[diane]

yesterday, i noticed diane added five tourneys titled KMA's Salute to Erotica! to my Tourney Schedules[/url] thread

This is also a bit that concerned me...I had no idea it was YOUR tourney schedule, i thought it was just a useful list you compiled for the rest of fibs to refer to.

So - basically the state now is..KMA will run 'salute to erotica' 5 nights per week, and that should be listed.

Speak now if you dont want them in YOUR list, and we will do another list, with all the tourneys in it, so I can send newbies to a one stop tourney list...

[KissMyAss]

Right, since you have both been here, and no further comment has been made, I can only assume that the issue is over with.

I would like my tourney titles returned to what they were.  Last time I will ask nicely.

If it isn't done by the end of today, then I will take further action.  There was no need for them to be changed without consulting me.

[moonshadow]

As you all know, I don't get involved with online battles, and I am not angry about this . . . .

Last time I will ask nicely.
If it isn't done by the end of today, then I will take further action..  .   .

I presume this would be an offline battle action?

[KissMyAss]

Off site.  I only have connection to one fibs person offline.

[socksey]

Another thought on tournament participation........I think there may be too many tournaments scheduled.  I expressed my concern about this with Tom when he originally set up his tourneys to run Monday through Friday. 

I was thinking that the sheer numbers may create loss of interest and for myself, this is becoming true.  I was trying to play in all the tourneys and I was finding my home was suffering my loss of that time. 

Also, some phone users cannot see shouts which is where we advertise.  So when you are looking at total number of players and think "why aren't these people playing in the tourney?", it isn't quite as bad as it looks. 

socksey



If I have any beliefs about immortality, it is that certain dogs I have known will
go to heaven - and very, very few persons. - James Thurber

[sixty_something]

good grief! i merely expressed my sincere opinion to what i thought was a sincere question, by KissMyAss -- "Do my tourney titles offend?".. i did not intend to start an international incident, but then i tend to forget this is FIBSland where even apparent adults often act and react like children

BTW, KissMyAss, i did not make ANY changes to your treasured tourney name .. as far as i know, diane, made all the changes .. so, don't look to me for explanations as to why it was changed or who did it .. i welcome your enthusiasm for creating FIBS tourneys that are accessible to you folks down under .. i also wish you luck in moving such "regularly scheduled" tourneys from regularly cancelled to regularly played and enjoyed

diane, i started and actively maintain the Tourneys Schedule thread .. just getting and keeping the times correct and reasonably understandable for FIBSters from all over the world was not an easy task, dealing with DST makes it almost comical for a week or two

i started the thread to help me keep FIBS tournament times straight .. i have actively maintained it in the spirit of service to the FIBS community and for the sole purpose of promoting participation in FIBS tournaments .. a position i continue to support .. pardon me, diane, for properly using the proper pronoun in describing "my thread" and my efforts .. if you find that offensive or inappropriate, get a grip

BTW, diane, since you have assumed responsibility for editing my post, please conform to the standards i created and include EDT (NYC time) for we Americans who may be interested in getting up early to play with you Aussies, salute erotica, and enjoy your charming Aussie personalities

dorbel, your cynicism and negativism regarding anything i suggest is not surprising .. it is, however, approaching pathetic .. i do wish you could use your considerable talents and energies for something positive every once in a while that is not self promoting or destructive of others attempts at positive action .. regardless, my experience with tournaments at FIBS continues to support my hope that good tournaments promote civility and good sportsmanship .. i regret that is not your experience or hope

[dorbel]

regardless, my experience with tournaments at FIBS continues to support my hope that good tournaments promote civility and good sportsmanship .. i regret that is not your experience or hope

We have all seen some astonishing scenes in recent months, where tournaments have been the scene of rudeness and disruption, sometimes from participants, sometimes from bystanders who have turned up entirely for the purpose of annoying people. Apparently 60 has either not seen these or has managed to forget them. However he is wrong to say that civil and sporting contests are not something that I hope for. Backgammon without friendly and sporting participants is meaningless in my opinion, which is why I no longer play in the tournaments where this sort of thing happens.
Until TDs find the will and the way to deal with disruptive elements, both playing and non-playing, we will continue to see such scenes. Don't shoot the messenger 60. I'm only pointing out what actually happens and comparing it to your somewhat rose-tinted view of fibs tournaments.

[diane]

I started and actively maintain the Tourneys Schedule thread .. just getting and keeping the times correct and reasonably understandable for FIBSters from all over the world was not an easy task, dealing with DST makes it almost comical for a week or two

i started the thread to help me keep FIBS tournament times straight .. i have actively maintained it in the spirit of service to the FIBS community

if you find that offensive or inappropriate, get a grip

BTW, diane, since you have assumed responsibility for editing my post.

I am trying not to continue to respond negatively here, when you approached my the other night with your 'concerns', I had just failed to get to play in one of the few tournaments I can actually attend, because it didnt get enough to run.  I am a bit despondent about that, I do miss being able to play. Consequently your patronising comments did not get the best response, even if you didnt mean them that way, that is how they came across.

In your post, you talk about the thread you posted being for the fibs community, which is how I have always perceived it, along with the main link from the main page...which is why them suddenly getting the possessive pronoun took me by surprise. As for offensive or innapropriate, well, I can only assume you havent had a red head in your grip for a while...

When I started my two tourneys up, you suggested I edited your list of tourneys, I wasn't keen and asked you. You did, and I was more comfortable with that. You are not here as regularly, or as often as some fibsters though, and with KMAs, I hadnt seen you around, so I tried to be proactive and get them advertised, as much as anything because of the lack of participation. Since you had offered before, I didnt see a problem.

I have also been trying to put mine straight, since DST, and me changing the times, both were wildly wrong in one or more time zone.  I have put that right.

That leads me to your next point about EDT..at this point, I go back to  preferring to have a separate 'general' tourney schedule, in two time zones..UTC [universal time] and the local time zone. To my way of thinking, it is pretty meaningless, as well as a mammoth waste of my precious time to try and post the times of my tournaments in universal time, local time for 3 separate Australians time zones [with and without DST], 5 time zones in America, plus Japan, Europe [how many zones?], Hawaii, Canada and UK....given that the time zones most likely to be able to make these tournaments are in the southern hemisphere, and UK and Europe.

I feel very strongly that UTC and local is enough, then anyone else can do their own conversions from a variety of websites.

You can maintain your thread in whatever time zone suits you [which is a very small corner of the fibs world, even if it does put up the majority of players for regular tourneys right now.]

The link on the front page should go to the general thread - with a link to yours, and you can keep both the local times, and the DST hazards under control there 

[dorbel]

Why is posting tournaments at their UTC time difficult? Every computer knows what time zone it is in and how that relates to UTC. Can't see the difficulty there for any computer user, whether TD or player.

[sixty_something]

trust me, dorbel, it is more than just UTC .. coordinating and scheduling tourneys at FIBS (a job description no one owns, but several of us are involved in) is more demanding and exacting than difficult, but it is a pain in the ass .. i think diane, KMA, and myself have demonstrated as much in this little thread alone .. when this stuff causes three reasonably intelligent friends, four including you (seven including socksey, Patti, and Tom), to stir up emotions like these, there is something difficult going on, but it ain't UTC, EDT, AEST, or Texas time -- WTF it is remains to be seen

actually, i know exactly what it is .. IMO, it is just a clash of our Jungian archtypes .. our King, Queen, Warrior, and Lover selves are in combat .. just as in real life, when those archtypes, aspects of our personalities, engage with others, all hell can break lose at the spur of the moment .. when such combat errupts, it escalates to mortal combat in the blink of an eye or the click of the mouse when we hit send .. as in life, when reactions are over the top or just out of control, whatever the real issue is is seldom the trigger, i.e. something stinks in Denmark and it ain't the cheese

[dorbel]

No emotions are stirred here I assure you. The use of an UTC to schedule tournaments for a worldwide clientele seems to me to be so easy and so obvious that I can't comprehend the problem.

[sixty_something]

yes, i am sure UTC is a mindless thing for most Europeans .. while a growing number here in the states use UTC conversions readily, most Americans have never heard of it or have any need for it .. in the states, the Eastern time zone (EDT or NYC time) is our base reference point primarily because of television, sporting events, sitcoms, etc

but as i said before, UTC is NOT the issue that is the problem

[garp_02]

Can we put this one to bed yet?

Quite frankly, it's turning into the usual Fibs 'debate'..... i.e. nothing to do with the actual 'problem' and more to do with petty greivances and certain members' need to flex their virtual muscle.

It's a little backgammon site and we should all be happy to enjoy playing and have a little friendly banter. If some need this place to be aggressive or show off in some way, then that says a lot about their personal life.

Get a grip...........organise tourneys...........have fun in a challenging backgammon arena .....and drop the shite.

[dorbel]

Fibs Time is UTC. Failing that, one  can (in Windows) right click on the time display in the borrom right hand corner of the screen, select "adjust date/time" and see a nice display of the world's time zones. No doubt Macs and modern phones have something similar.
However, that isn't the problem. So, what is the problem?

[diane]

FYI..more Americans than you imagine use UTC..doing business in a global economy, with computers, depends on a single time zone - and UTC is it.

It isnt a European time zone, it is a scientific one...

Coordinated Universal Time (abbreviated UTC)[1] is the time standard by which the world regulates clocks and time. Computer servers, online services and other entities that rely on having a universally accepted time use UTC for that purpose.

It was initiated from the United States National Institute of Standards and Technology and is the time zone used for international business, aviation, sailing and just about anything that needs tio be understood at both ends 

It is also - as dorbel points out, easily added to your computer, and all other time zones are quoted as the offset from UTC.

Come on, you can do it..I almost have 

[moonshadow123]

.  .  . tournaments in universal time, local time for 3 separate Australians time zones [with and without DST], 5 time zones in America, plus Japan, Europe [how many zones?], Hawaii, Canada and UK....given that the time zones most likely to be able to make these tournaments are in the southern hemisphere, and UK and Europe.

What makes the UTC issue so amusing is that it has nothing to do with Jungian archetype red herrings and everything to do with 60 cleverly hopping around the rational and very convincing arguments others have given as to why UTC is ideal.

yes, i am sure UTC is a mindless thing for most Europeans .. while a growing number here in the states use UTC conversions readily, most Americans have never heard of it or have any need for it .. in the states, the Eastern time zone (EDT or NYC time) is our base reference point primarily because of television, sporting events, sitcoms, etc

but as i said before, UTC is NOT the issue that is the problem

I do appreciate the 60 two step and I do agree that "UTC is not the issue".

The real issue is educating my ignorant and solipsist American countrymen about UTC, a task for which 60 is well-equipped to do. Its certainly a lot easier than trying to explain Jungian archetypes.  

[sixty_something]

thanks, moon .. i fully agree and am on board with UTC whole heartedly .. knowing full well that tomorrow is winding down for diane and KMA not to mention that today is already yesterday for you and dorbel is not nearly as befuddling to me as it once was

diane, i am sure that my fellow 'mericans you deal with are UTC fluent .. but trust me, a man on the street survey would not yield 1 in 100 who had a clue .. the number one answer would be "Some kind of contraceptive device" .. most of my fellow 'mericans are dumber than one of dorbel's fenceposts when it comes to some things

BTW, moonshadow, my lover wants me to ask your lover for a dance , but my warrior is still a little too homophobic .. he really doesn't want to deal with my queen energy 

[KissMyAss]

lol sixtie.  I can usually be found in either tomorrow or ten years ago.  I try to hit tomorrow as much as I can though, cos ten years ago, well... where was i? .......................  

25.... oh yes, mid twenties.  That was a time of living alone, no child, out on the town most nites, many weird and wonderful bevvies, tramping round town after the local band i had the hots for one of the members of..... ah the good old days.  lol

The sparkling blue eyes and the cheeky double-dimpled grin of Miss Beautiful are worth much more to me than all of that combined with a naked Gene Simmons.  



Right, lets see if the technically challenged managed to get the pic in there the right way.  

Ok it didnt work, and i looked up on the help menu.  It says how to type a website address in between the two img brackets, but the pic is in my computer not some website.  So I dunno. 

[socksey]

dorbel, i could only get my windows clock to display 2 time zones, max, btw, which is not enough for me. 

KMA, this is what I keep displayed on one of my Internet Explorer windows at all times to keep me straight for my time purposes:  http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=4&day=23&year=2011&p1=0&p2=70&p3=47&p4=248  If you need more timezones than that, click on the "time zones" "meeting planner" and set them up as you like.  If you use Mozilla Firefox, you can set time zones up to display across the bottom of the window.  At any rate, time zones should not be a problem for you or anyone, if you do use one of these methods.

60, the military in the USA uses GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) which is exactly the same as UTC (Universal Time Coordinated or Coordinated Universal Time).  I learned this time method being a military wife, and it is easy for me to use this conversian to my own time zone, but not for world time zones, and that is why I use the above paragraphed reference.  Btw, I took the liberty of changing the linked reference to "World Clock" on the "tourney times" page to show  the "meeting planner" page, since worldclock.com has changed it's format so that the meeting planner is not so readily available by tab now.  You have to search for it by going to "time zone", then "meeting planner".

socksey



"Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build bridges even when there are no rivers." – Nikita Khrushchev, Premier of the Soviet Union, born in 1894

[sixty_something]

thanks for the heads up, socks .. i went into the Tourneys Schedule thread for maintenance for the first time since the DST changes .. it was a mess complete with bad times for at least three or four tourneys including the Thursday Bago .. i spent several hours after the time changes trying to get it right .. i thought it was, but i know better than to bet on that .. i spent another couple of hours today cleaning up the mess

i don't think it was your fault, socks, or diane's, but i am convinced that editing that thread by committee needs to stop .. so, for the future, please advise me if changes need to be made and do not make additions or deletions .. i think we all agree it is important that the info the Tourneys Schedule thread be current, correct, and consistent .. your help in keeping it that way will be appreciated, but i will resume full responsibility for it beginning now

BTW, the problem is neither UTC time conversion or archetypal .. it is just the reporting of complicated and changing information .. it isn't rocket science, but it isn't as easy as you might expect .. to simplify and standardize the format, i am settling on UTC and ET (EDT) for the two time zones listed for each tourney .. therefore, i have removed your "Texas time" reference on F3 and Mini-Matches, socks .. i am leaving AEST for now on the three new Aussie tourneys, but i am leaning toward removing that ASAP .. frankly, i am about ready to bite the bullet and go with UTC alone, but, for now, it is what it is

the other major change i made was at KMA's instruction .. for now, only her Wednesday night tourney which is started automatically by TourneyBot is listed .. the name change to Krazy Kiwi Klassic was decided by KMA and is solely her choice and responsibility .. for the record, KMA has credited me with suggesting the Kiwi Klassic part .. i did, but i certainly did not demand it .. IMO, we can call our tourneys anything we like providing they are fun, but erring on the side of trying not to offend anyone has to be the better way to go .. regardless, thanks for changing it, KMA, and continued success with your other tourneys .. if and when you'd like to add one or more of them to the schedule as well, just let me know

[KissMyAss]

Thanks sixtie, I will.   

And I wouldn't have come up with Kiwi Klassic by myself, so yes I credit you with the suggestion; would never take credit for something that wasn't my work.  I just came up with the Krazy bit, cos ya'll know me, and you know it fits!  lolol

[sixty_something]

thanks, darl' .. sixtie likes it .. i just wanted to make it clear i didn't put any pressure on you to change it -- not that that matters, people will think what they want .. as long as we keep doing it to promote fun, it is all good

[KissMyAss]

 


Muppet did the above faces. if it has colours and looks like cartoons, they are her domain.


Sixtie is starting to sound like eenie... is he sure eenie is not his brother?  lol

Yeah, all the clarification in the world is sometimes still not enough. But ya get that.  

[KissMyAss]

Just feelin good about myself, so am posting.   

14 players not counting me, in my tourney tonite!   Hugest one ever! 

crille_, inim, uppercrustie, pollemanden, EchoSierra, TourneyDirector, aramat, ifaesfu, Cigale, Perfect_Celle, roygbiv, Damma, conjuror, jackdaddy, griff


Thanks to you all. 

[KissMyAss]

Special thanks go out to sixtie, for adding my Krazy Kiwi Klassic tourney to the TPR listing. 

i really appreciate all the support out there.