Bush Vs Kerry election

[MND]

Feel free to post anything about the election here.
Judging by the situation in the main chat, this subject is much needed these days.

[diane]

Judging by the situation in the general chat, the last thing we need is yet more of this    

[MND]

The idea is to have everything here, to make it easy avoid reading it.

[diane]

ROFL - that is ok then    

[Shades]

... if you think they will come here to unload their silly comments you are deeply WRONG... they just get a kick out of doing it in shout..!! :evil:  

[socksey]

Fooled you, Shades!  I got a really interesting email about women voters that I will share here:

The women were innocent and defenseless. And by the end of the night,they were barely alive. Forty prison guards wielding clubs and their warden's blessing, went on a rampage against the 33 women wrongly convicted of "obstructing sidewalk traffic."

They beat Lucy Burn, chained her hands to the cell bars above her head and left her hanging for the night, bleeding and gasping for air.

They hurled Dora Lewis into a dark cell, smashed her head against an iron bed and knocked her out cold.  Her cellmate, Alice Cosu, thought Lewis was dead and suffered a heart attack.

Additional affidavits describe the guards grabbing, dragging, beating, choking, slamming, pinching, twisting and kicking the women.

Thus unfolded the "Night of Terror" on Nov. 15, 1917, when the warden at the Occoquan Workhouse in Virginia ordered his guards to teach a lesson to the suffragists imprisoned there because they dared to picket Woodrow Wilson's White House for the right to vote.

For weeks, the women's only water came from an open pail. Their food--all of it colorless slop--was infested with worms. When one of the leaders, Alice Paul, embarked on a hunger strike, they tied her to a chair, forced a tube down her throat and poured liquid into her until she vomited. She was tortured like this for weeks until word was smuggled out to the press.

So, refresh my memory. Some women won't vote this year because--why, exactly? We have carpool duties?  We have to get to work? Our vote doesn't matter? It's raining?

Last week, I went to a sparsely attended screening of HBO's new movie "Iron Jawed Angels." It is a graphic depiction of the battle these women waged so that I could pull the curtain at the polling booth and have my say. I am ashamed to say I needed the reminder. All these years later, voter registration is still my passion. But the actual act of voting had become less personal for me, more rote. Frankly, voting often felt more like an obligation than a privilege. Sometimes it was inconvenient.

My friend Wendy, who is my age and studied women's history, saw the HBO movie, too. When she stopped by my desk to talk about it, she looked angry. She was- with herself.

"One thought kept coming back to me as I watched that movie," she said. "What would those women think of the way I use--or don't use--my right to vote? All of us take it for granted now, not just younger women, but those of us who did seek to learn." The right to vote, she said, had become valuable to her "all over again."

HBO will run the movie periodically before releasing it on video and DVD. I wish all history, social studies and government teachers would include the movie in their curriculum. I want it shown on Bunco night, too, and anywhere else women gather. I realize this isn't our usual idea of socializing, but we are not voting in the numbers that we should be, and I think a little shock therapy is in order. It is jarring to watch Woodrow Wilson and his cronies try to persuade a psychiatrist to declare Alice Paul insane so that she could be permanently institutionalized.  And it is inspiring to watch the doctor refuse. Alice Paul was strong, he said, and brave. That didn't make her crazy. The doctor admonished the men "Courage in women is often mistaken for insanity."

Please pass this on to all the women you know. We need to get out and vote and use this right that was fought so hard for by these very courageous women.

For more information on this movie, visit:

http//www.hbo.com/films/ironjawedangels/synopsis/

socksey




Two can live as cheaply as one. . .for half as long. - submitted by Joyce Doyle

[diane]

Here here.  Every election I have to relay this sort of tale - and sadly sometimes it still doesn't work.  Whether the elections are national or local - voting is vital - even if you turn up and spoil your ballot in protest at the poor selection.  Otherwise I can almost picture the very reasonable sounding headline now.... so many people dont bother to use their vote - and look how much it costs to set all this up, let us restrict voting to those who actually show up - which research demonstrates is.....

[PortWine]

Women have the right to vote?  Next thing you know they will be driving cars and wanting equal pay.

..............honey.....get me a beer out of the fridge.

PW

[Bondy]

Women have the right to vote?  Next thing you know they will be driving cars and wanting equal pay.

Terrible, isn't it?  It's like they have minds of their own...

[spielberg]

Hey all . Enclosed graphic is most uptodate chart I have of Bush's price . This is a "real" market price which is actively traded . Like all traded commodities it will have a settlement price when the election result is known ( faster than last time , this time I expect) The settlement will be 100 if Bush wins , and 0 if Kerry (somehow) does - the debates should be fun to watch anyway (particularly for a non-american) - Bush's eloquence is negligible whilst Kerry has that deadpan delivery. The first one is at c. 1am GMT on 10/1/04 - my dvd will be recording cnn for once - chances of catching gaffes should be excellent !

[spielberg]

To a well known tune:

" Hail to the chief , who with earpiece and prompter ,
  Still can't conduct a lucid debate. "

[webrunner]

For the sake of this topic i have removed the crap that Delgato aka Burper has posted here.

This is NOT censor, there is enough of these posts left in the forum.
I am just trying to respect and repair the topics and keep them on-topic.