Shout Logs

[NIHILIST]

Given everyones pre-occupation with shout logs, I thought I'd share one from last night. It's not often we get to witness the self-immolation of an acquaintance.

Bob

Patti shouts: Every client that's connected to the server generates load.  I'd rather not have a bunch of people idling for extended periods of time.
don shouts: Interesting.  I commented on server load about 15 years ago, was laughed off by the usual (indeed the usual still here today)
Patti shouts: One of several reasons for changing the timeout was so that people didn't idle all day.
cowgirl shouts: hi J!
Patti shouts: It was a very different server 15 years ago.
don shouts: shout unfortunately it's an easy fix for clients, Patti, so you haven't really solved the problem.
Patti shouts: No, but client authors *could* respect my wishes.
don shouts: shout Why?  They haven't done so in the past.
don shouts: I would suggest you place your 'wishes' in the CLIP and nuke clients that don't conform.
Mort shouts: just like she nukes you when you don't conform?
You shout: lol
don shouts: sort of, Mort, but we aren't talking flames here.  We're talking a real issue.
Patti shouts: (Damn, my ISP weirded out.)
Mort shouts: so am l
dipr shouts: teenage lesbians please call me  !
Patti shouts: And yes, client authors have respected my wishes in the past.
don shouts: Patti has made a 'fix' of a symptom, as far as the internet is concerned, but as usual done nothing about the cause.
Patti shouts: don, I would recommend that you not speak publicly about things that you are ignorant of.
You shout: thatd be a change
Mort shouts: lol
Mort shouts: hasn't happened in 10+years
don shouts: How so, Patti?  JavaFIBS does not conform to  the CLIP, nor does 3D
Patti shouts: (a) Why I changed the timeout, (b) what client authors have and haven't done per my wishes.
You shout: lol
Mort shouts: don's always right and knows everything. how do you put up with it, patti?
Patti shouts: It's mostly pathetic, Mort.  Not to be taken seriously.
Mort shouts: yo tubro. how bout those Vikings
MissManners shouts: ** Warning!  bigshauny with 47 saved games just logged in.
tubro shouts: missed the game.  they won?
Erdapfelesser shouts: ein Oberschulmeisterlein is expected to know all and everything
Mort shouts: well, you already know how we take care of don
Mort shouts: ya tubro
Patti shouts: Geissenpeter speaks!
Mort shouts: you missed a great game
You shout: jass
Erdapfelesser shouts: geissenpeter is one of inim's nicks
tubro shouts: damn.  and i was invited to a rich guy's house - huge awesome home theater.  and he's a monster vikings fan.  but my band had rehsearsal.
Patti shouts: And your identity, E.
tubro shouts: thelonoius monster.
Patti shouts: WOuld you prefer gaissenpeter?
Mort shouts: E is the original goat herder
don shouts: Clients should conform to CLIP.  None of the most popular do.  There's nothing I've seen in CLIP about timeouts Patti, but much that I've seen that does not confome to CLIP.  a)  set the rules; b) enforce them.
tubro shouts: where is inim lately? 
Patti shouts: don, as usual I will give your advice on running this server the credit that it is due. 
You shout: the other day my cable company changed some software and it locked up my converter box; so i took it to their office, swapped it out, and now i get every HBO, TMC, SHOWTIME, CINEMAX and STARZ channel
Mort shouts: don is bucking for another demotion, l feel
Patti shouts: don, rule #1 is don't be a pain in my ass.
don shouts: That's you problem, not mine Patti.  My advice is good, your response unreasonable.
You shout: don is reminiscent of the buddhist monk in vietnam who set himself on fire over some obscure issue
Patti shouts: gupie, it's in my blood but I'm not very dedicated.  However, one of my coworkers showed up in the office in a Cubs jersey recently.  I retaliated with a Cardinals jersey the next day, and have given him no end of grief.
Patti shouts: don, would you like to be banned again?
don shouts: I don't see that on CLIP Patti, but I do see you are haveing server problems with clients that don't conform to the published rules.
Patti shouts: don, would you like to be banned again?
Mort shouts: don, please choose....door #1, door #2, or door #3
don shouts: It's a simple protocol to follow, even if you add the timeout function, yet you seem incapable of consistency.
You shout: someone wake vic up, hes missing this
Patti shouts: don, I asked you a question.  Please give me a yes or no.
Mort shouts: don, there's a condition to one of those answeres
don shouts: Perhaps you need to listen less to your own ego and more to standard programming practice, Patti.
Patti shouts: don, would you like to be banned again?  Yes or no.
Patti shouts: I'll give you two minutes to answer.
You shout: patti has the patience of a saint
don shouts: I'm sure  it would be tough for you to admit I might be right, but that's another of your problems, not mine.l
tubro shouts: lucky me.  i just got home.  missed letterman.  missed vikes game.  but it looks like i got here just in time for the real show.
Patti shouts: again, don, you don't know what you're talking about.
Mort shouts: don, we'll see if you're right in 2 minutes
You shout: quick, make some popcorn
You shout: lol, mort
Patti shouts: I typed "sleep 120" in anoher window.
Mort shouts: it's up to patti
tubro shouts:   welcome back don.  i was all ready to ask you if you were a changed man and if your time away finally convinced you that howling at the moon here is comical, hypocritical, pointless, etc., and that when all's said and done, the way you previoulsy behaved got you nothing but suspension from your favorite place and derision from most everyone else?  i hope so.  i hope you'll be less divisive around here.  lord knows, patti runs this joint with more than a little tolerance.  but you run afoul constantly of everything.  i hope for you that you'll reinvent yourself as a good citizen.
Mort shouts: is it the deep sleep this time?
don shouts: It's simple, Mort.  Clients should conform to the publish protocol.  Patti is inconsistent in requiring this or enforcing it.  The latest timeout change is merely a BandAid over the real problem.
Mort shouts: don, don't talk to me
Patti shouts: Ding!  Don, would you like to be banned again?  Yes or no.
tubro shouts: i was about to say that, but it seems that you've already answered.  welcome back anyway, for as long as you remain back.
Mort shouts: patti asked you a question
nparker shouts: Anybody for a 3 pt match
don shouts: I don't see anything in the rules, protocols or CLIP about giving you good advice Patti.
You shout: or answering a YES or NO question, apparently
Patti shouts: don, I'll give you one more option.  You can be banned, or your shouts can be blocked.  Which would you like?
don shouts: neither
Mort shouts: don, this one requires an answer
tubro shouts: should have said 'no thank you' when you had the chance.  quicksand is a b#t#h, eh?
Patti shouts: Neither is not an option.  And I should point out that the administration of this server is not 100% governed by the CLIP protocol.
Mort shouts: right gupie, but don brings it on himself
You shout: its governed by the PATTI protocol
Mort shouts: it's quite amazing actually
Patti shouts: The last ban was temporary.  The next one won't be.
Mort shouts: don has consistently disrespected patti in her own house
don shouts: when a sysAdmin lets ego run things instead of logic, it's bad.
Patti shouts: When a user lets ego run things instead of common sense, it can be fatal to him.
tubro shouts: don, maybe this isn't the right time, but could you tell me what you really think about the administration of FIBS?  don't hold back. 
don shouts: before you do so, Patti, I'd like to see you publically say why.
You shout: lol
don shouts: If it's because I responded to your insults say so.
Patti shouts: don, do not forget that you are a guest in my home. 
don shouts: I'm done with this conversation, I tried to help.  Enjoy.
Patti shouts: don, the reason is that you are a pain in the ass, you make my life more difficult, and you are disrespectful to me and to other users of the site.  You create chaos, discord, and difficulty.
You shout: i guess i missed it, where was the HELP part ?
Patti shouts: gupie, I can barely remember what I had for dinner, and the bowl is sitting right in front of me.
Patti shouts: Negative
don shouts: Actually I'm not done. Patti, I respect you enough, or once did, to tell you the truth.  There, now I'm done.
Mort shouts: don, do you REALLY  think patti needs your help?
Patti shouts: But you don't respect me enough to respect my wishes when I make specific requests of you.
tubro shouts: i used to think maybe it was just a bit, like Ed Anger in the world weekly news.  but i stopped thinking that  a long time ago.  there seems to be anger and madness there, both in large quantity
Patti shouts: His last ban was a transient ban.  This one is permanent, and will last until I intentionally take it down.
You shout: did you ban him ?
Mort shouts: don's vessel has some holes in it
Mort shouts: l think the door hit don this time

[vegasvic]

thank you bob for sharing ..... damn it i miss all the fun 

Don ,

If you read this , one advice i have for you ... as a dinner guest when the hostess tells you its enough STFU. i would STOP. before she kicked your sorry ass out on the street.

Enjoy your ban , and see you next spring .

PS. Dont  let your  vessel crode

[PersianLord]

I think if don had a technical advice for Patti, he should have talked with her privately, not in the shout scene. And also when the owner of a private property asks for silence, to keep arguing with her/him means that you should accept the consequences.


Regards