How long is 'a bit'?

[amarganth]

No problem for me and all players from bluewin.ch, because we are blocked now twice for shouting:

Since months i got the message
     ** The shout command is not available for users from your site.
during login.

Happy, that I do not run tourneys anymore...

[socksey]

FREEDOM OF SPEECH on FIBS
I don't know what the answer is, but I don't think banning people and countries from shouting is the answer.     It reeks of a dictatorships control.   

I'm wondering why "gag and blind" is still not the answer to the whiners who complain?   

I'd even be willing to stop all censoring of Fibsboard if people would stop bugging me when they are offended.     Exception being "profanity" which is in auto place, I believe.    

Further, I think I will refer the complainers to stog in the future.     We seem to have a different agenda on this subject.   

socksey




"tut tut tut that enough children, grow up, I don't want to hear anymore !" -- Anakin, curtesy of don

[stog]

our policy is outlined here http://www.fibsboard.com/page/9/

and, where some of us may interpret the above in different ways depending on our mood, and whether or not the dog has just died, all the moderators on this site attempt to keep it 'a cool' place , and i support this approach, although i suggest allowing folks to "hang themselves with their own words and stupidity".

More often i  am against censorship - i do not however advocate free speech unless you are prepared to 'fight' or be 'fought' - as because, where i come from, where folks are free to say whatever - they don't always -- because they know someone may well 'drop em', if offence is taken. The bullies on fibs shouts would not act that way in a live situation.


I quote from our "about fibsboard"....(link above)

"We trust all will appreciate the opportunity to post their views in a considered and polite format"

below is a warning taken from the actual FIBS FAQ

"One word of warning, though: at times some of the discussions carried on FIBS via shouts (i.e. readable by everyone) is, well, kind of "low level" and not for the faint hearted. If this disturbs you, you can use commands to gag and/or blind the offending people. "

Fibsboard however is different, apart from the option of not viewing, it is open to the public, with no option to blind/gag -- except by the admin..

we repeat

"this is a reminder for all of us to keep to topic and put across our views without getting petty and personal. we will not, and cannot allow tirades of abuse, as may sometimes occur in FIBs shouts here on Fibsboard - this being an open public forum albeit membered by adults. we have introduced a yellow and red card system here - as is used in football, where a yellow card is a booking - a warning -the post removed, if you get another, you get a red and you are sent off - which in a 'boarders case would mean their ability to post would be withdrawn for a period of time.

obviously we reserve the right to totally ban too."

and so does Patti....

[Zorba]

Live and let live, that's respectful to me. Shout and let shout. Don't like someone's shouts, gag them and ignore them. Yes, that takes some self-discipline. Surely anyone can learn that?

If one starts adapting to who's got the longest toes, there's just no end to it. Anything could be called offensive by someone. One's own opinion about what's offensive or not is just that, an opinion, and should not be considered some kind of objective truth.

That said, there is nothing wrong with Patti stating (and enforcing) some clear rules about what's allowed on FIBS and what's not, because right now, that's far from clear. This lack of clarity might also cause some of the heated debate as certain people strive to push their own morals onto FIBS in general. Also, for about a decade, it seemed (to me at least) that pretty much anything was allowed on FIBS shout. If Patti wants to change that, maybe it would make sense to tell us the new rules?

[KDP]

One of the things I've always liked about fibs was that it was uncensored.  While on occasion the shouts were/are R rated, one always had the gag/toggle silent commands at his or her disposal.  Certainly Patti's job is difficult and unglamorous and she probably doesn't get the thanks she deserves for running the place, but she is the head honcho.  To paraphrase B.B. King, she's paying the cost to be the boss. But it still saddens me to see this about face from her.  My greatest fear is that Patti will morph into Gabriella from GridGammon (aka GridGulag) where dissidents will be met with extreme prejudice.

[diane]

I welcome this stand - although some guidence on what it was for and how long it will last would be nice...then people can learn from their mistakes, and the mistakes of others.

The nastiness in shouts has long made it a place where decent folk don't hang out, people are afraid for their children and friends to see it, and those who stay for any length of time become part of the problem.

New trolls come along and see what is there, and think 'great - a place where I belong' and set up camp. The cycle becomes self perpetuating.

I am all for adult banter, fun and less censorship - but telling me that if I am offended by someone racially abusing someone else, or otherwise crossing normal moral boundaries, then I should close my eyes...well it aint gonna happen, here or in the real world.  There are limits - and sadly some never want to stay within them.

I would like to see the 'be nice to each other' statement enforced in the PUBLIC areas.  Let people use private tells for any other business, where the gag and blind command works perfectly.

Last night I played a game with kid, and resh spectated.  We used language we were all comfortable with in kibitz and had a giggle [oh, except kid used one three letter word which I had to reprimand him on   , once told, he didnt use it again   ]

You can have your own little shout arena in that way and say what you want, using what language you want.

Lets keep the shout area clean, welcoming to new players and a place where tourney details can be shouted and Missmanners can keep us all up to date with current droppers...

[ah_clem]

I'm a strong advocate of free speech.  People should be able to say or write whatever they want.  But that doesn't mean that they should be able to say it whenever and wherever they want.   Your right to speak doesn't mean that the rest of the world is required to listen to you; in particular, Patti and Stog are under no obligation to provide a soapbox.

It would be nice if we all had the discipline to ignore those we don't like, as Zorba suggests.  But as a practical matter, enough people respond to trolls that it only takes one problem participant to literally ruin an online discussion board.  I've seen it happen numerous times - granted, it wouldn't happen without the "enablers"  who respond to the pest,  but human nature being what it is the enablers just can't seem to exercise self-restraint.

So, a bit of "maintenance" to weed out the problematic community members goes a long way towards keeping things functional and on-topic.  There's no reason to put up with deliberate trollling, excessive abuse, disruptive posts, etc.  And anybody who wants to do that has a big wide open internet with thousands of sites where he or she can do just that.  I don't want to hear any whining about how their freedom of speech is being ruined.

[ah_clem]

Last night I played a game with kid, and resh spectated.  We used language we were all comfortable with in kibitz and had a giggle [oh, except kid used one three letter word which I had to reprimand him on   , once told, he didnt use it again   ]

What was the word? oin?

[Fernbrook]

I used to play Chess on ICC and the shout/discussion threads were quite enjoyable. I was quite shocked ( admittedly I may be much older than the average player and have *old fashioned * values ) when I started to play BG about 5 weeks ago and saw the comments and responses in the Shout Section. My first attempt to ask a question about * how to do something * was responded to by some very unsavoury remarks. Soon after someone else came to my aid and was extremely helpful. I saw the Friends/Villains tabs and started putting , what to me were the most foul offenders, into Villains..before i started to realize that this level of conversation was the norm on FIBS. I enjoy the friendly chat as much as the game..but some of the content was such that I started investigating if there were other places to play on-line. 
I understand that people do not like cencorship..and i suppose for me the solution is to just withdraw from BG discussions in the Shout Thread

[socksey]

I understand that people do not like cencorship..and i suppose for me the solution is to just withdraw from BG discussions in the Shout Thread

This brings to mind when my mom and I saw "Love Story" together.     It's such a wonderful story, but my mom was aghast at the gazillion use of the "F" word.  She was so upset with it, that she didn't like the movie at all then.     The word is so commonly used in public nowadays that she has gotten used to it and doesn't cringe every time she hears it now.     I'm not saying this is a good thing, but I think we need to stay in touch with what's going on in the world outside ourselves.  We don't have to like it, but we should be tolerant of others. 

For that reason, Fernbrook, I think you should not withdraw from shouts, but rather, join in and let your feelings be known.  Some will respect you and others won't, but at least you can have your say, and that's important.     You might make a difference!   

BTW, I'm told that Patti plans to restore shouts in a couple of days.  YES! 

socksey



No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power. - P.J. O'Rourke, writer (1947- )

[deuce]

Was it something I said?

[deuce]

But Seriously, Folks...

Half of the fun of FIBS is shouting.  I know I play a little rowdy sometimes, but I like to think I play fair, and almost always try to bring Teh Funnay.

I almost never use the actual Bad Words, and try to use clever euphemism.  Sure, I flirt shaelessly, but I think it's harmless, and I respect those who tell me to stop.

Some of you miscreants are actually pretty clever folks and it's fun bantering with you.  Not entirely sure that FIBS will be worth it without that.

Ya morons.

[Tomawaky]

It's unbelievable for me to see Fibs without shout.  
I am not sur to understand why shout has disapear, but I can't see any reason to do this. All command are available (toogle silent, gag, blind...) So why a global silent has been set ?
Shout is what make it special...and different from others servers.

I don't know if I missed it. But someone just can tell me simply why it has been done.
Or maybe nobody knows exactly why !

[Patti]

I rarely read FIBSBoard-- someone pointed this discussion out to me.

While I'm sure that everyone enjoys guessing, speculating, and throwing around judgments and advice, it's neither a good way to get information from me nor a good way to provide me with feedback.  If you want information about something that I've done with FIBS (such as "How long is 'a bit'?"), or you want to know why something happened, I'm easy to get in touch with.  

If you'd like to tell me how I should be running FIBS, I'll put you in touch with don and you can have a field day discussing it among yourselves.

I'm generally a free speech advocate, but that doesn't mean that I'm obligated to provide people with a platform for obnoxious and asinine behavior.

I won't be following the discussion here, so contact me via email if you'd like to discuss the issue further.

By the way, I've been incredibly surprised by the reaction to this move.  Thanks have outweighed complaints by about 3:1.

[ah_clem]

While I'm sure that everyone enjoys guessing, speculating, and throwing around judgments and advice, it's neither a good way to get information from me nor a good way to provide me with feedback.  If you want information about something that I've done with FIBS (such as "How long is 'a bit'?"), or you want to know why something happened, I'm easy to get in touch with.  

Patti,

Ok.  If I was really all that concerned about it, I'd probably contact you directly.  But I'm circumspect about doing that since you're a busy person and probably don't have the time to answer 1000s of emails and I don't want to add to your inbox. But it seems to me that it would be a more efficient use of your time to issue a public statement so that you don't have to answer 1000 people.  

Everyone,

Here's the tail end of the final shouts, which just happened to be hanging around on my client.  Draw your own conclusions as to why Patti shut it down.

Spoiler

jackdaddy shouts: you hear about the state senator from bakersfield?
deuce shouts: And I acknoledge Massa.
deuce shouts: God, yes.  What a riot.
jackdaddy shouts: amazing
jackdaddy shouts: will still vote anti gay because it is the wil of the people
MissManners shouts: ** Warning!  brookslife with 43 saved games just logged in.
SirLuzalot_ shouts: royally so
factotum shouts: but you gotta whine with style, and attitude
MissManners shouts: ** Warning!  brookslife with 43 saved games ust logged in.
SirLuzalot_ shouts: gimme points fer trying to whine
factotum shouts: yeah, there should be a guidebook
SirLuzalot_ shouts: im dignified about my whining
Whataguy shouts: arent the still trying to prove that global whining is a problem
factotum shouts: like a Micheline guide.    whines  should be awarded stars
SirLuzalot_ shouts: usually happens away from fibs when I slap my wife
SirLuzalot_ shouts: blame her for all my shortcomings here
factotum shouts: hey.  thats not nice
mookie shouts: she can't be blamed for that penis
maria shouts: MooOooOokster
SirLuzalot_ shouts: she gets to gobble
mookie shouts: hi crusher
SirLuzalot_ shouts: its all fair
SirLuzalot_ shouts: woa
factotum shouts: only one to slap is your opp
SirLuzalot_ shouts: really Id get a smackin for that kinda talk
SirLuzalot_ shouts: so good I get to go very penisat large here
SirLuzalot_ shouts: yea
SirLuzalot_ shouts: <- penis at large?
SirLuzalot_ shouts: thres something to chew on
MissManners shouts: ** Warning!  smooth with 35 saved games just logged in.
factotum shouts: getting a bit crude here.   can we elevate the convo?
DeaDice shouts: SirLuzalot_, I'm finding you very abusive. I think some copy/paste is what you need.
SirLuzalot_ shouts: aren't you also....?
SirLuzalot_ shouts: getting on my testies otherwise?
factotum shouts: everyone slips,   just take a breath
factotum shouts: its ok
factotum shouts: we love you
SirLuzalot_ shouts: we?
factotum shouts: royal, or collective, 'we'
factotum shouts: take your pick
SirLuzalot_ shouts: how many them bennies you been lickin tonite?
factotum shouts: jelousy does not become you , Sir
SirLuzalot_ shouts: good response... very funny
Joe_Tamargo shouts: Now that my match is over I can say Fibs loves me.
SirLuzalot_ shouts: well I do
Joe_Tamargo shouts: Otherwise I find I usually talk too soonn.
factotum shouts: Joe!  Joe!  He's our man!  If he can't do it, nobody can!
SirLuzalot_ shouts: ok time fer a peepee
lambda_phage waves goodbye.
factotum shouts: nothing like a good piss
lambda_phage waves goodbye again.
Joe_Tamargo shouts: Hey, factotum.
Joe_Tamargo shouts: Play a game of go with me.
SirLuzalot_ shouts: for no reason at all fibs has me up all nite
SirLuzalot_ shouts: wired
SirLuzalot_ shouts: and weird
factotum shouts: I tried to find you on kgs the other night, but I am only used to using automatch
Joe_Tamargo shouts: Will you go to the English Game Room and wait for me.
SirLuzalot_ shouts: what we playing there?
Joe_Tamargo shouts: I'll issue an open challenge and refuse everybody but you.
factotum shouts: ok,  my name is Doby
Joe_Tamargo shouts: ok  I'm going there now
SirLuzalot_ shouts: Dopey among friends
SirLuzalot_ shouts: sry
SirLuzalot_ shouts: but it has been specified
resh_lakish shouts: Luz i saw your mom log in last night she was SirCuzaLot
SirLuzalot_ shouts: crack crap business reserved fer thursdays
factotum shouts: and then in the subsequent concert, he pulled a girl out of the audience onto the stage, and introduced her as 'Ms Teenage jailbait, 1983!
factotum shouts: but thats another story
MissManners shouts: ** Warning!  Yasmine_ with 37 saved games just logged in.
SirLuzalot_ shouts: tell my mother I am not here
factotum shouts: the other two times i interacted w Root Boy Slim, were at Memorial Stadium, in Baltimore, during Orioles games
resh_lakish shouts: facto what was the orioles best year you can remember
SirLuzalot_ shouts: well very happy for ya facto but I wasn't there so frankly I give a crap
Slipshod shouts: when jim palmer did that underwear and i realized i could come out of the bullpen
SirLuzalot_ shouts: SLIP
Slipshod shouts: yo luz
SirLuzalot_ shouts: yelp
factotum shouts: sh** man.  i attended the 83 world series glorious win over the Philadelphia (where, it just so happens, i was born)
tstrainor shouts: Factotum: I rarely drop. I just play iPhones....anyway it bugs me about the bad rep stuff. Thx for the info.
resh_lakish shouts: was murray on that team
Slipshod shouts: u sound like you lived on Roosevelt Boulevard
SirLuzalot_ shouts: you were born in 83 then?
factotum shouts: had tix to games 2 and 6,     6 proved unnecessary, as the O's won in 5.  I got a refund for that
factotum shouts: born in 56.  just ask
tstrainor shouts: Inim: I don't use foul language.
SirLuzalot_ shouts: so yer 27 yrs. old then fact?
inim shouts: completely at the discretion of your opponent to judge that, ts
SirLuzalot_ shouts: inim is recording us or has access to our every blabber
factotum shouts: lets see....... 83 minus 56.... equals......
Slipshod shouts: i heard u cursing yo ass off
resh_lakish shouts: was eddie murray on that team
factotum shouts: yes
resh_lakish shouts: who pitched game 2
Slipshod shouts: no, it was john belushi
resh_lakish shouts: who pitched game 5
SirLuzalot_ shouts: that yer facts are in fact outta wack?
SirLuzalot_ shouts: always nice to discover a bullshitter
SirLuzalot_ shouts: it's refreshing it's l'oreal
resh_lakish shouts: SirDoucheNotEnough
SirLuzalot_ shouts: shut up louis
SirLuzalot_ shouts: we're verging on something
resh_lakish shouts: i spent a lot of i spent a lot of time that trip to hollywood is etched in my mind
SirLuzalot_ shouts: you prolly shouldnano
Slipshod shouts: yo etch a sketch is busted reshie
factotum shouts: think it was scot McGegor, or maybe Flanagan or Martinez
resh_lakish shouts: nigga slippy the elder i gonna bust upside yo head so hard your ear will fall in your dice cup
SirLuzalot_ shouts: dang give my left nut fer an etcha sketch
resh_lakish shouts: that is a pretty good rotation
factotum shouts: but i think it was another guy, whos name i cant put my finger on
SirLuzalot_ shouts: figures...his ass ran away
resh_lakish shouts: dennis martinez?
resh_lakish shouts: did they have a closer
resh_lakish shouts: i hate dodger baseball
resh_lakish shouts: i am tired of dodger stadium
SirLuzalot_ shouts: dodgeball...great movie
SirLuzalot_ shouts: stiller doeshave bigger balls than i
resh_lakish shouts: dodger stradium was the connection dependent on the o malleys and the brooklyn LA connection
factotum shouts:  Mike Boddicker.  that who won game 2
resh_lakish shouts: all that is gone
Slipshod shouts: an epic drama
resh_lakish shouts: none of that exists anymore
resh_lakish shouts: the connection to brooklyn
factotum shouts: whew.   had to look it up.  however......
resh_lakish shouts: the o malleys
SirLuzalot_ shouts: then again hes jewish...goes without saying
factotum shouts: i defenatley recall the John Lowenstein HR into the Phillies bullpen
SirLuzalot_ shouts: resh check yer balls...if they bigger than mine I wouldnt be surprised
SirLuzalot_ shouts: grab em good for meaasure
factotum shouts: and, i know a great Lowenstein quote
resh_lakish shouts: who were the notable phils
SirLuzalot_ shouts: squeesze
resh_lakish shouts: was tug mcgraw on that philly team
SirLuzalot_ shouts: and say ooooh
factotum shouts: er, maybe.  testing me here
SirLuzalot_ shouts: are we measuring or what?
factotum shouts: mike schmidt was
SirLuzalot_ shouts: I say when
SirLuzalot_ shouts: squeeeze
Slipshod shouts: steve carlton was the stud
resh_lakish shouts: all i can facto, its manny being manny
resh_lakish shouts: lefty
Slipshod shouts: and before him, jimmy ashburn
resh_lakish shouts: slipshod where is your hometown
factotum shouts: he was gone by 83, i think
resh_lakish shouts: childhood
SirLuzalot_ shouts: was squeezing his nutss too
Slipshod shouts: never u mind reshoid
resh_lakish shouts: i know your name dude
Slipshod shouts: jersey city
SirLuzalot_ shouts: he not squeeze balls?
Slipshod shouts: larry bowa
resh_lakish shouts: so what baseball team do you support if you are from jersey city?
resh_lakish shouts: larry bowa is on the dodgers
resh_lakish shouts: third base coach
resh_lakish shouts: times had a big article
SirLuzalot_ shouts: hey slip
resh_lakish shouts: donny baseball the heir appraent to torre's job
factotum shouts: describe the origin of the name 'Dodgers'
SirLuzalot_ shouts: resh knows yer name meaning what?
factotum shouts: deep trivia
barrington shouts: you still here fact
Slipshod shouts: that chunt robert moses drove them out of brooklyn
SirLuzalot_ shouts: am not american so I give a deep flying ####
factotum shouts: all you geniuses dont know sh**.  ok,  i will tell you how the Dodgers got their name
SirLuzalot_ shouts: had a dodgers cap once
SirLuzalot_ shouts: #### knows I just liked the logo
SirLuzalot_ shouts: heard it was a crap team tho
factotum shouts: way back when, the local team got their name from dodging trollies.    and they became known as the 'Trolly Dodgers'
SirLuzalot_ shouts: pussies?
MissManners shouts: ** Warning!  aberobins with 31 saved games just logged in.
Slipshod shouts: that's an old midwives tale
factotum shouts: this was in nyc, of couse
factotum shouts: no, its the truth, Rugh
factotum shouts: Ruth
SirLuzalot_ shouts: Babe
Slipshod shouts: ask the ho bout dat
jackdaddy shouts: bout what
factotum shouts: could you stand up to Sam Jackson and say that?
jackdaddy shouts: forget babe ruth, check out dock ellis.. http://www.fark.com/cgi/vidplayer.pl?IDLink=4768309
SirLuzalot_ shouts: brother of samuel?
factotum shouts: now, in the case of Babe Ruth, he hit many so-called  'home runs'  that would, today, be ground rule doubles
SirLuzalot_ shouts: am not american - still don't give a crap
SirLuzalot_ shouts: baseball is fer gurls
jackdaddy shouts: sir, isn't it past your bedtime?
Pedro_Navajas shouts: factotum is mfull of sh** Sir
factotum shouts: then, if it went out of the park on a bounce, it was ruled a home run
factotum shouts: and that is no sh**
SirLuzalot_ shouts: yes dear way way way passed
SirLuzalot_ shouts: ty fer caring
Pedro_Navajas shouts: agreed Sir
SirLuzalot_ shouts: who's the mexican w. advice?
Pedro_Navajas shouts: yoursacist pig factotum, what makes you think that I amk a Mexican
SirLuzalot_ shouts: was me #ss#o##
factotum shouts: when did i say that?
factotum shouts: cmon
Pedro_Navajas shouts: Sorry, Sir are from South Africa?
MissManners shouts: ** Warning!  itscrazy with 31 saved games just logged in.
factotum shouts: i might be a racist pig, but you dont know it
barrington shouts: there's a sausage on the floor - what should i do?
SirLuzalot_ shouts: ill repeat; who's the injun w. advice?
factotum shouts: so back off, jack
Pedro_Navajas shouts: I apologize Factotum, the rascist is Sir
jackdaddy shouts: what did i do facto?
SirLuzalot_ shouts: barrington ya naked bastad... swing yer nuts about ot is you a gurl?
factotum shouts: wasnt talking to you , penis nose
barrington shouts: penes nose?
DeaDice shouts: facto represents this guy Luz......
jackdaddy shouts: two peas in a pod
barrington shouts: I know a few girls that would like that
DeaDice shouts: 3 now....
factotum shouts: too much info
jackdaddy shouts: this calls for a limerick
SirLuzalot_ shouts: pedro keep yer flat nose outta my discussions and do not concurr when not directly asked
Pedro_Navajas shouts: Sirluzalot must come from apartheid South Africa
jackdaddy shouts: there once was a fibster called fact. many had tired of his act. he needed a drink and said i do think, i'll sit here and entertain jack
jackdaddy shouts: an oldie, but goodie
SirLuzalot_ shouts: pedro no talk when not asked...seee
Pedro_Navajas shouts: Sir you are an idiot
SirLuzalot_ shouts: argh
SirLuzalot_ shouts: prove it
factotum shouts: there was a chick named Dea.   she was, of course, a real pea.  then one day barrington, although he swears he didnt,  gave here reason for a case civil for stalking 'em.
Pedro_Navajas shouts: you just did
SirLuzalot_ shouts: no really
DeaDice shouts: SirLuzalot_, how much did you pay Patti: to dominate shouts for a long time with your foul language?
Pedro_Navajas shouts: not only an idiot, but also a bore
factotum shouts: ok Pedro.  you try a limerick
factotum shouts: see how easy it is
factotum shouts: or luz, for that matter
SirLuzalot_ shouts: whatever the case pedro has had little schooling
barrington shouts: i limerick fact
factotum shouts: fucking dinks.  take pot shots at me
SirLuzalot_ shouts: and dea?
DeaDice shouts: yes?
factotum shouts: i do the heavy lifting around here
SirLuzalot_ shouts: why you on my ass as this ot that?
factotum shouts: i dont need dinks dinking on me
factotum shouts: snipping at my heels
DeaDice shouts: Because you are a dried up old man, who has nothing better to do but talk dirty........
factotum shouts: what was dirty?   not dirty.  clever.
DeaDice shouts: Just my observation.....
factotum shouts: i avoid crude and dirty
Patti shouts: So why do you engage him?
DeaDice shouts: just now? he asked.....
factotum shouts: or maybe , she was interested
vegasvic shouts: please lets get this right , i am the dried up old man
vegasvic shouts: sir is not even 40
SirLuzalot_ shouts: 44
vegasvic shouts: close
DeaDice shouts: You put on a preformance, and should expect some audiance response, a little.....
factotum shouts: i can take it.  but dish it out , too
vegasvic shouts: what happend to the old adage gag is your friend
factotum shouts: if nothing else, i take some heat off of vic
SirLuzalot_ shouts: thought I was doing that
MissManners shouts: ** Warning!  EroErisErit with 34 saved games just logged in.
factotum shouts: whew,  another smartass taking over.
vegasvic shouts: No one can
factotum shouts: i was getting pressed, there
Patti shouts: I am really sorely tempted to turn off shouts for a day or two.
factotum shouts: aw patti, we are having fun
barrington shouts: a change is as good as a holiday....
barrington shouts: that would be both
SirLuzalot_ shouts: would jump us right into thursday full of faggots
Patti shouts: Excuse me, SirL?
SirLuzalot_ shouts: not that they show
factotum shouts: pick a random 2-day shout prohibition, that might bee good.  but dont claim it to be player specific
DeaDice shouts: You know, he goes on and on, in lod zyxctba mode, a complete jerk.....
Patti shouts: How's that?
factotum shouts: he who?
DeaDice shouts: facto, you even told him he was over the line....
factotum shouts: remind me
SirLuzalot_ shouts: can't believe the ratting out
BGay shouts: Hello everyone
barrington shouts: how about random jumble shoouts where peoples comments get attributed to different nics without warning
barrington shouts: now and again
SirLuzalot_ shouts: nothing to bgay about here
inim shouts: test
inim shouts: test2
jackdaddy shouts: test 3?
SirLuzalot_ shouts: inim you need to get a life outside
barrington shouts: inim has to be sure
SirLuzalot_ shouts: show.......
SirLuzalot_ shouts: cant say nothing
inim shouts: i love to take advice from a guy who for a full hour now shouts nonsense
SirLuzalot_ shouts: like walking a tightrope here
BGay shouts: Let's play
SirLuzalot_ shouts: Im gay
factotum shouts: there once was a fibster named barrington, to whom, nobody could swear against.     Till one day he sood, right up with his wood, and said ' do this or else Im' gone again'
SirLuzalot_ shouts: I mean game
SirLuzalot_ shouts: no
You shout: up on the tight wire one side is ice one is fire
SirLuzalot_ shouts: im not
inim shouts: test3
factotum shouts: rhyme weak, and content too
factotum shouts: but it does hold together
SirLuzalot_ shouts: inim when was the first time you logged onto fibs?
inim shouts: 199-something
inim shouts: probably 2nd half, don't recall exactly
inim shouts: but surely before 1998
SirLuzalot_ shouts: I came on in 99

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[Zorba]

I've only heard complaints and general confusion from many FIBSters, so it might depend on the sample.

You say you're easy to contact, but given the fact that you're the one administrator with thousands of people using FIBS, wouldn't it make a lot of sense if you turned it around? FIBS users are easy to contact too, all at once. One single webpage with some text would do.

Lacking any essential information on this latest FIBS surprise (the time-out issue was also not communicated, again causing all sorts of speculations and complaints), it's no surprise people come here to speculate and give you advice.

Are you interested in what FIBS users think FIBS should be? If yes, I'd say communication is essential and saying you're easy to contact isn't quite that.

(messaged to Patti on FIBS also...)

[jackdaddy]

Not sure what the surprise is. Patti had mentioned often she might resort to turning off shouts. The behavior she was referring to seemed clear as well.

[Zorba]

I've seen no mentioning by Patti of this kind. Where can I read what Patti is mentioning?

[jackdaddy]

I've seen no mentioning by Patti of this kind. Where can I read what Patti is mentioning?

You must have been asleep. Too bad. Maybe you can ask Patti to lift the timeout as well. Then you won't miss a thing.

[Zorba]

Just because you're always online, doesn't mean entire FIBS is, jackdaddy.

Given the responses here and in FIBS tells, it's clear that many people have no idea why this happened, just as many people had no clue about the changed time-out settings.

Which was the point: it would be nice if there was a better method of communication.