sry I am currently doing maintenance -including the various membergroups - v. messy >7 hrs today ) try a reload......

VIP Donors have fewer ads/donation requests which gives faster page loading (i do turn them on from time to time when the  spaces are used for informing, but they should be off for all VIPs now -- please let me know if welcome area ads and between posts ads are still showing -- i may have a problem here sry )

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we have had 14 VIP Donors this year many thx --we are very grateful

 if you have meant to donate, but haven't got around to it so far -- now would be a good time, as all our costs have risen, and i need to save for some new equipment - my computers were second hand, when i got em >6 years ago! they are now pretty full up -- we do local backups, as well as online here..

i have been able to respond to various problems throughout the year fairly quickly, and i trust you find the forum adequately fast, given the amount of info that has to load. Also quick response and timely upgrades has meant our downtime has been much reduced this year so far!

to donate click here ( even a pint is helpful and much appreciated and allows us not to to have to rely on too much advertising - cheers)

grrrrrr will try n fix it this week if i get time..sry